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greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2014 09:43

Looking at those service records and comparing with Hyacinth's history, I would say that Alexander embarked as she sailed in 1903 to relieve her sister ship HMS Highflyer as flagship of the East Indies Station. His character and ability are then reported annually ie to 31st December each year, last being Dec 1905, when I think that his character and ability are recorded as VG - ie Very Good. There is then an entry 1 Jan 06 - 3 Jan '06 by which is the notation DD. A very short time in which to be Dishonourably Discharged, although not impossible.

Hyacinth's records show that she was in reserve in Devonport in 1906 but not precisely when in 1906.
EDIT - but as Highflyer was back in the East Indies as flagship in November 1906, then possibly not until late 1906 was Hyacinth back in Devonport. A new Captain was appointed January 1907, so that might fit.

So as an outside chance -
Unfortunately in Service Parlence DD could well mean Discharged Dead. And no precise idea of where, so maybe no record available??

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Jun 2014 11:17

Hello Jean. I am so pleased that you have found Alexander after all this time. You must be so excited. Is that all you Moores accounted for now?

Hope you are well.

Jean

Jean Report 20 Jun 2014 17:42

Sorry for the late replies, babysitting duties on Friday so just got home .

alviegal,

There is one Moore brother still unaccountable .Henry Stewart Moore d.o.b. c1860
he is shown last on the 1881 census age 21, occupation is hammerman, no sign of him anywhere after this date it seems .

greyghost,

Thank you for your input .very interesting.
I just hope DD in Alexander's case does not mean discharged death .

rootgatherer,

hello,I hope you are well.

Can't believe Alexander has been found after all this time .
It just shows you should never give up.

Nearly all accounted for now apart from Henry Stewart Moore. Alexander's older brother , but I am on a mission now to try and find him as well.

I hope your research is going well,

regards
jean

Kayak

Kayak Report 21 Jun 2014 14:57


The following website shows abbreviations found in Royal Marines Service Records

http://www.royalmarinesmuseum.co.uk/item/researching-family-and-royal-marine-history/abbreviations-found-in-rm-service-records

Jean

Jean Report 21 Jun 2014 22:06

Update on Alexander.

greyghost was right about DD meaning discharged on death.

A friend of mine visited the archives at Kew and found the ships log books.
It states that on 4/1/1906 landed funeral party to intern the remains of Pte Alexander Moore RMLI .

Such a shame as he would only have been about 26 years old.
It was on the "Hyacinth " whilst in Calcutta.

There was nothing to say how he died .
I will have to try and find out if a death certificate would have been issued .

Thanks again to everyone for their input

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jun 2014 23:19

He died of enteric fever, I'll send you the image that this transcription is from:

British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Deaths & Burials Transcription
First Name Alexander
Last Name Moore
Date of Death 03 Jan 1906
Date Of burial 04 Jan 1906
Year Of Birth 1881
Age 25
Place Fort William
Presidency Bengal
Archive Reference N-1-331
Folio -
Page 153
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948

Mentions that he was on the Hyacinth.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Jun 2014 00:02

.???

Reference:ADM 159/76/9368 Description:
Name Moore, Alexander
Register Number: 9368
Division: Royal Marine Light Infantry: Plymouth Division
When Enlisted/Date of Enlistment: 15 August 1898
Date of Birth: 07 April 1880
Date: [1890-1900] Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record


Jean

Jean Report 22 Jun 2014 11:18

MarieCeleste,

Thank you so much for this.
Can I ask you how you found this please and also I would be most grateful for the image ,

regards
jean

Jean

Jean Report 22 Jun 2014 11:20

Hello rootgatherer,

yes, this is the one my friend found yesterday at Kew.
Such a shame he died so young.
I wonder how his mother Margaret would have found out about his death.

Jean

Jean Report 23 Jun 2014 09:38

MarieCeleste,

Just looked at the image of death information ,

thank you so much for doing this,

regards
jean

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 24 Jun 2014 12:21

Very sad that he died so young. His poor mother probably didn't find out for weeks and was probably counting on his pay to help provide for the family. I wonder if his brother Henry enlisted too.

Jean

Jean Report 24 Jun 2014 13:50

I have been looking for Henry again since finding Alexander but still nothing for him as yet , but I am keeping my fingers crossed he pops up out of the blue like his brother .

You are probably right about his mother relying on his wages as she did apply for poor relief a couple of times if you remember.

I wonder if Alexander had left a will ?
I have been looking at the National archives website but can't really make much sense of it , perhaps someone could help me out and point me in the right direction,
many thanks