Genealogy Chat

sorry havent got back to you sooner but skys internet was
down today for south wales and the west country so havent
been able to do anything. if i purchased a birth certificate
for james (1795) would his parents be on it? thanks to all
for your help will do some more looking later.
marina ;-)

Marina


Registration of births, marriages and deaths did not start until July 1 1837


So, certificates are not available before that date.


Before July 1 1837, the only record is in the actual Parish Registers .......... many of these are now being slowly put onto the internet



and this is what we have all been finding for you.



Unfortunately, you will almost never find the names of BOTH parents on any marriage certificate, even up to the present day.


and not even the fathers' names appeared in early certificates, and especially not in the Parish Registers.



so I'm afraid the answer is NO.




sylvia

hi cynthia and vera sorry not been in touch but skys internet
been down in south wales and the west country.thanks for your hard work.if i purchased a birth certificate would his
parents be on it? i dont know if i sent this message earlier
but am redoing it again just in case.thanks again will be in
touch later. marina ;-)

Marina

As Sylvia says no birth certs. I have had sight of the parish birth record for James on the CityArk site. It says the same as record already posted ie
Jan 4th 1795 Buggs James son of James and Mary.

Nothing additional on the register as is the norm.

I've looked for another marriage for James and Mary other than the one you know of already i.e. James and Mary Weller - nothing coming up at present.

Vera

Hello Marina.

When you have had a look through the help you've been given, let us know what you think. I am pretty sure that we have found the right parents for your James born 1795..

Don't worry too much about linking up with other people's trees as they may not have the right info so don't copy anything from anyone else unless you are sure it is right :D

Hope to hear from you soon. Cx

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about James Buggs
Name: James Buggs
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Louisa Jarrad WIDOW************

Marriage Date: 12 Apr 1879
Parish: St James, Muswell Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Haringey
Father Name: James Buggs Tailor
Spouse Father Name John Smith Paper Maker Deceased

His address Woodchurch Kent
Her address St James Muswell Hill

James Buggs the groom is a Gamekeeper

hi marina here the thought did cross my mind that some trees may not be right.have been checking out a few sites as well but keep coming up with the same answers as you
have .ido agree with what you have found and some of the paper work you have is more detailed than i have seen .i
shall make sure i copy that so i have them for keeps.i am
very grateful for all your hard work and couldnt have done it
without you guys.i have even been looking at graveyards.
thanks again. :D

you're very welcome, Marina


and, no, many of the trees on ancestry cannot be trusted.


Too mnay people just copy the information from another tree, and never check that the information is correct.


You are doing the right thing in attempting to find your own information, and double checking.




sylvia

sylvia hi.e-mailed a person on a tree to see if we had any
links and her tree had the wrong james such coombes
his spouse was racheal emily buggs and the census
match.his mother and father were edward coombes and
sarah buggs.and her parents were philip buggs and hannah nordish is that strange or what .i find it strange that the buggs name appears twice in the family but will do some more checking out thanks to every one who helped me great team marina :D

Hi sylvia.think my tree is now sorted but will do a lot more searching and double check it here goes james buggs+emma elizabeth spain; james buggs+louisa jarrad
james bnuggs+rachel hawkins;james buggs+mary weller;
richard buggs+mildred haysell; william buggs+mary plummer;john buggs+margaret messam;richard buggs+
elizabeth wyburn.so many thanks for your help.
best regards marina ;-)

Good to hear you are sorted Marina.

If you want to add any further information to your tree, then the MCA site is definitely the one to search. Vera and I have both spotted the same information and it's so interesting to see the actual handwritten records.

Come back to us if you need any more help.

Regards. Cx.

Good to see that you have sorted your tree out.

You're very welcome to any help that we can give you.


As Cynthia said, come back if you need any more help.


You can always find this thread again by looking in My Threads in the box to the elft.




sylvia