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Please could someone tell if It's possible to find out who lived in a street called Hall Moor Hingham Norfolk in 1908

Jasper

Main Library in the area may have archived voters rolls for checking I don't know if there was such a thing as valuation rolls kept down south but they give more or less the same info as voters rolls if there was

I am doing a mini one name study of my Uncle's family who lived in Hingham in the 1800. A number were to be found at Hall Moor.

I gather it was a lane to the south west side of the village. I think it is now known as Hall Moor Road. There are no property numbers shown on the censuses up to 1901 - I cant speak for 1911 as I haven't looked there yet.

The electoral rolls for this period will be of little help unless the person you are looking for owned land or property.

Who or what exactly is it you are hoping to find?

Hall Moor Road is quiet a long road out of the village, I dare say the few cottages etc would have been known just by the names of the people living there. It is still a very rural area.

http://www.origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/places/h/hingham/

http://www.hingham.org.uk/hingham/family-history

I'm trying to find my fathers mother.On his birth certificate it says he was born Hall Moor Hingham.Imformant was S A Bailey present at the birth.His mothers name was Rhoda Roberson a domestic servant who i cannot trace.She could have lived or worked at that road.I don't know what else to try

On the 1901 Census, living at Hall Moor are William Bailey, aged 83 and his wilfe Sarah Ann Bailey, aged 62. No occupation shown.

I'm assuming your father is Frederick Roberson, birth reg March q 1908? I take it you don't know where his mother was from?

So Rhoda was single? I cant see a Rhoda Roberson birth Norfolk.

There is no fathers name on certif .My father went into care as soon as he was born we assume as he is on 1911 census with the family he lived with until his teens
I found Sarah ann Bailey living in Hall Moor Rd it's possible she is the person on the birth certificate but i'm not sure how that will help
I never knew anything about his mother or where she came from.

Just a possibility.
1901 census
Rhoda Robinson 1871 Hingham Norfolk living Southminster Essex
Sorry cant view the image to check name spelling


1881 census.
William Bailey 1818 Hingham occ ag lab.
Anna wife 1833 Rockland St Peter Norfolk
William son 1862 Hingham occ ag lab
Harriet 1869 Hingham.
RHODA BAILEY dau 1871 Hingham
Ellen dau 1874 Hingham
Martha 1877 Hingham
Edward 1880 Hingham

address Hardingham Rd Hingham

The 1901 image is clearly Rhoda Robinson.

Wondered if Rhoda Bailey married a Roberson or similar, but cannot find such marriage.

Tough one this.

Margaret

I guess Roberson could be mistaken for Robinson if the enumerator didnt hear correctly. Its just strange that a William Bailey has a daughter called Rhoda in 1881 and is living at the correct area in 1901with a wife born in the same area

Can you find William on the earlier census 1871,1891?


There is this marriage
Rhoda Bailey 1892 sept qt Camberwell gro ref 1d 1430
Thomas Robinson
Mary Fisher.
Alfred John Thirling.
Can someone check the 1901 census to try to match these couples

The Rhoda Robinson on 1901 has husband Thomas and two children (Florrie & Rhoda) were born in Camberwell - so that seems like the right marriage that QuinsGran found above.

Name: Rhoda Robinson
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Hingham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Southminster

Thomas Robinson 35
Rhoda Robinson 30
Florrie Robinson 7
Rhoda Robinson 3
RG13; Piece: 1688; Folio: 49; Page: 11


However, if your Rhoda was previously married then this should have been stated on your father's birth cert (i.e. it should read "Rhoda Robinson, formerly Bailey"). It should state this irrespective of whether the father is named or not. Also there is the difference in spelling Robinson/Roberson so maybe it's just coincidence?

So we need to find Rhoda in 1891

Also still need William Bailey in 1891,1871

1911 Rhoda Robinson (born Hingham) is a widow living in Lambeth (no other Robinsons in the household):

ROBINSON RHODA F 1873 38 Lambeth London

Richard.
If you read the thread Jaspers father was born 1908 Hall Moor Norfolk mother Rhoda Roberson
Informant S A Bailey.
William Bailey and family are living at that address in 1901.Its just too much of a coincidence.
Im thinking the birth cert has been transcribed as Roberson and should be Robinson. I have several certs which have the wrong name even the wrong sex would you believe, so mistakes are possible. Then that wrong name is passed down . Jaspers surname is Roberson

If Rhoda Bailey/Robinson/Roberson gave birth to another child and her husband was dead she might not want his name on the cert. Also it could be the reason her son was given up

As for parents names on certs. My grandmothers birth cert gives parents as married. Mothers maiden name . On grans marriage cert she names her father as the same one on her birth cert.
I was shocked to find her as a nursechild in 1891.Lodger with the same family in 1901.
No sign of a marriage or deaths that might fit

Jasper will have to look for the missing Robinson children in 1911 to see if they are in care

Yes I have read the thread, and agree that it is quite a coincidence. What you say could well be correct, but it would mean that not only was the surname mistranscribed but also the details of the mother were incorrectly entered (as it should have read "Rhoda Robinson, formerly Bailey" - even if her husband Thomas had subsequently died and was not the father of the child). Of course such errors and omissions do occur, but also so do coincidences (especially with common names such as Robinson) - so I think that Jasper would need further proof in this case.

Richard

Thank you for all your comments.I also thought it was a coincidence to find the imfomants name in the same rd and she had a daughter named Rhoda.There is no other name on certificate I'll keep looking

Other opinions needed.
Still need to find Rhoda in 1891.
Also William Bailey in 1891,1871

1871 England Census
Name: Rhoda Bailey
Age: 1 month
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Willm
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Female
Where born: Hingham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Hingham
Town: Hingham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Forehoe
Sub registration district: Wymondham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Willm Bailey 54
Sarah A Bailey 33
Anne E B Bailey 14
Sarah A Bailey 11
Willm Bailey 8
Susanna Bailey 5
Hannah Bailey 2
Rhoda Bailey 1 month