Genealogy Chat

Hi Sharon,
Haven't had time yet to look at the parents of Fred Blackburn, hopefully will tomorrow. Would be interesting to find buriel details for William Smiths parents Benjamin and Mary or any of the Gelsthorpes, also maybe other children who died young. Thanks for the remarriage details of Emma, she didn't wait too long before finding a new man didn't she? If you have anything to add to the message I have left for Derek feel free.
Thanks again, time for an early night for once.
Bye for now, good wishes Karen.

hi karen
havent had time to sort out deaths of gelsthorpe yet but i will get round to it
regards sharon

Hi karen......unfortunately no William Smith baptised Ault Hucknall......just a suggestion.....you say Ault Hucknall Nottinghamshire.......It's actually in Derbyshire........Hucknall is in Notts.

Derek

Thanks Sharon and Derek, nice to know you are helping me. I found the Ault Hucknall county thing confusing Derek, not being from that area and going on the census records (on some William had said Derbyshire and on some Nottinghamshire), is it closer to the border of the two?
Bye for now
Regards Karen.
Oh just remembered have either of you come across anyone with records of Staffordshire/Worcestershire (another border quandery), my other source of great trouble is on the other side of the family a gt gt--- grandfather born in 1828, can find no birth details, know his fathers name, but mother elusive, got some info once on a possible, but found that going by the remaining children she would have been well over 60 when last one was born, again wondering if his father married twice. Anyhows that is my next quest.
Bye

hi karen
i dont know anyone with those records i will try and get round to your death look ups tomorrow as my hubby is about to come home after 3 weeks in chile its our 32 wedding anniversary and we are popping to to see our grandaughter who is 1 today so have not alot of time this evening
will speak to you later
sharon

Happy Anniversary Sharon and Husband and happy birthday grandaughter . No rush Sharon, enjoy your family in the here and now, the "gone before's" arn't going anywhere else in a hurry. Strange it's Gerald and mines anniversary on Monday, but we've only notched up 18 years, probably try and go out for a meal over the weekend or maybe Sunday Lunch (beats cooking). Bye for now Karen.

hi karen
happy anniversary have a good meal.
starting to look a few out know
best wishes sharon

hi karen
heres a few to be going on with
john gelsthorpe poss marys dad 16 4 1897 teversall abode hucknall age 87
benjamin 26 12 1881 age 83 elizabeth 17 7 1882 age 94 sarah 19 12 1869 age 55 john 24 8 1865 infant eliza 7 3 1864 age 17 frederick 29 10 1861 infant and elizabeth 2 2 1860 age 65 all at teversall
regards sharon

You're doing a grand job Sharon, all these names and dates are fascinating, well some of the Gelsthorpes lived to good ages didn't they, 83 and 94 pretty good going for that period in time I would have thought, maybe that's where I mother gets her long life gene from she had her 98th birthday 2 weeks ago! Any sign of deaths for the Smith lot, Benjamin, Mary and any of their children. I am awaiting the arrival of cerificates for marriage of Benjamin and Mary and birth of William, keeping everything crossed it all ties in. Don't think there was a record for Benjamin's birth in that area, I seem to have seen his place of birth as Oxfordshire on a census record. I'm really chuffed at what you have discovered for me, just need a free week to add it all to my tree and update my records, something I have neglected for ages, somehow when you are "stuck" you seem to be skirting around one bit of the family which has stopped me doing the rest - don't think I have an excuse now. Do you think the fairies will come and do the housework for a while so that I can put a few more pieces in my family jigsaw? No that's what I thought.

I am about to post a fresh thread to see if anyone can get me over the hurdle on my dad's side of the family, my other stumbling block, and trace a couple of death records in the 1920's.30's which elude me.

Thanks again Sharon,
Cheers Karen,
P.S. Hope your evening went well.

hi karen
the smith deaths are more difficult to trace but i think benjamin 1818 died march 1865 mansfield on free bmd there is also a couple of marias on there
but i will keep looking i hope the magic fairy appears for the housework it would be lovely
best wishes sharon

hi karen
more deaths in teversall
joanna 22 9 1822 whiteboro
george 10 5 1836 age 78
this is sad john 25 6 1837 age 31 samuel same day age 8 killed in coal pit buried in one grave
john 27 5 1846 age 74 sarah 24 5 1852 age 71 joseph 14 2 1855 age 86 elizabeth 13 2 1859 age 80 joseph 2 2 1860 age 68
there are plenty of others around so if you find they lived anywhere else let me know
best wishes sharon

Hi again Sharon,
Have noted all the death records you have found for me, that is a sad one the 1837 deaths, makes you realise what a harsh world our ancestors lived in.
I shall be copying up all you have found for me and getting it into some sort of order ready to update my tree (another job on the back burner). By the way those fairies are having another day off - you can't get the staff these days.
Bye for now and thanks again.
Karen

Hi again Sharon,
Just received this mornings post and certificates for marriage of Benjamin Smith and Mary Gelsthorpe, confirms the info you gave me, says residence at time of marriage Hucknall under Huthwaite for both of them. Benjamins father is a WILLIAM SMITH labourer and Mary's a JOSEPH GELSTHORPE collier, witnesses at marriage Joseph Gelsthorpe and Elizabeth Gelsthorpe, sounds like her parents, I know you have found deaths for those names, any chance of a marriage look up for them, or even birth records Benjamin aged 22 but of course don't know if he is the eldest child.
Also got birth certificate for son William 9th July 1840 (that was a close one), marriage took place 7th June!! father Benjamin Smith mother Mary Smith formerly Gelsthorpe residence Hucknall under Huthwaite.
I finally believe it is the right lot of Smiths, especially having found Benjamins father to be a William.
Thanks in anticipation
Good wishes Karen.
P.S. Not only did we have Sunday lunch out but pushed the boat out and had a meal on Monday evening at our local pub - treats all round!!

hi karen
i am pleased you had a lovely time its nice to push the boat out every now and again i will have a good search round tomorrow for your family if i cannot find anything i am going to the archives in the easter holidays will try and do you a look up then
speak to you soon
best wishes sharon

Hi Sharon

You're a gem, thanks so much.
Speak soon.
Good wishes Karen

hi karen
the nearest baptism i can find for a benjamin smith 1818 is 18 2 1817 sutton in ashfield to benjamin and sarah he being a butcher
the marriage possible is sarah ward 26 8 1803 sutton in ash
children
thomas 22 4 1804 sarah 24 11 1805 martha 27 12 1807 mary 7 1 1810 joshua 17 5 1812 elizabeth 2 10 1814 and henry 17 10 1819
hope they help
best wishes sharon

hi karen
the only marriage i can find for joseph gelsthorpe is to mary goodwin 25 12 1818 teversal could it be possible the witnesses were her father and sister or maybe brother and sister in law ill see if i can find a marriage for a joseph to an elizabeth before 1840 but around that sort of date
best wishes sharon

Hi Sharon,
Just thought I'd have a quick look before putting the kettle on, see you have been busy again. Yes you are right the marriage witnesses could be relatives other than parents, thanks for the look ups on possibe Benjamin Smith births, marriage and siblings too. You are so patient scanning thought all those records for me, I really have no excuse for not updating all my records now!! Thanks for the Gelsthorpe marriage look up too, would have been usseful if that Joseph had married an Elizabeth instead of a Mary - most thoughtless.
Bye for now
Thanks again Karen

Hi you two..watching your progress with interest and admiration.
If your needs ever encroach into Derbyshire..I do have a wide selection of records, as you will see on my Thread "Derbyshire Parish Records"
Only too pleased to contribute


Derek

Hello Derek,

Nice to hear from you, Sharon is doing a grand job for me, you Genes folk are being so helpful. Thanks for your offer of help on Derbyshire, if I come across a "branch" hanging over the border I'll be in touch! Woudn't you know if just when I have lots to get my teeth into the weather improves and the garden having suffered in the frost this winter has suddenly come to life, or rather the weeds have - why do weeds survive extreme weather and treasured plants having been around for years keel over???
Bye and thanks again,
Regards Karen