Find Ancestors

I am just starting to do some preliminary research to help my sister in law with her family tree. From the posts I am seeing above, most posts on this particular threat seem to be from people researching Romany families in the UK. Has anyone done any research for Romany ancestors in the old Czech Republic?

Other than a language barrier (I don't speak or read Hungarian or any of the Slovak languages), is there anything else I should be aware of?

My sister in law's grandmother was born in the Czech Republic and is from a Romany family. Her grandmother used to "read cards" and have her grand daughter sit under the table and knock on it during the reading to scare the customers.

Thanks for any info!

Shannon

Nudge again for Angela.

nudge for "everyone" (boardname).

I have been told that we have Gypsy blood in our family, but I would have to check with my Nan for names, dates and places. I'm not sure if she knows much about her kin. But I do know my great grandfather was William Greaves born about 1890. I'm not 100% sure about the date and I can't give you a place. The family settled in Liverpool and the children all married into local families. William married Elizabeth Duckworth (b1894) died Apr/May/Jun of 1934 in childbirth in Walton Hospital.
William had a brother called Swale/Swail? Sorry that is all I can give you now, until I check with my Nan - but I think that she will just confirm this.
Many thanks Carolyn

got ivy's birth cert. and found out that her mothers name was Leah Whitehouse but carn't seem to go any further back. Thanks for all the help

Angie

hello romany star i have found out that my alma day's mother was charlotte joyce born abt 1849 i don't know if you can still help me? as i am really interested in trying to find the romany gypsie link in my family.

thank you

trudy

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i'm sorry i keep saying thank you lol but i am really greatful for your help you really are a star.......


trudy

You dont have to say thanks lol, Im happy to help. If no-one had helped me, I wouldnt be where I am now. I've had some wonderful help from the peeps on here.
If you order the cert, we can work backwards from there, also on Charlotte's side.

thank you romany star you are brilliant for taking the time to help others.

thank you so much

trudy

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Trudy, in 1871 Charlotte and her husband Edward John Day were living with 3 month old Mary in Dartford. Says Charlotte and Mary born Dartford, and Edmund born Sutton at Hone, Kent.
Marriage record (but I think you have this?)
Name: Edward John Day
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: North Aylesford
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 615
Charlotte's maiden name Joyce or Cornford. Would be a good idea to order the cert.
There is an Edward Day on the IGI born 1849, but he is not your man, he married an Emily Honey in 1874.

hello romany star thank you for all your help. you offered to help me look back on my family to find relatives before the 1881 census if you could still help me i would be very very greatful.

thank you so much your a star...

thnak you

trudy

Angela, I'll do my best and ask around. If you order Ivy's birth cert it'll give you her mums name. Then you can find her ancestors too, they may be Romany. Have pm'ed you.

Trudy: This info may help when you get further back: (PS You need Alma's birth cert to verify her mum.)

DECEMBER 3RD 1768 ENGLAND
ON TUESDAY LAST JOHN AND THOMAS DAY BROTHERS OF COCKLFIELD WERE COMMITTED TO BURY GAOL ON THEIR OWN CONFESSING OF KLLING A SHEEP THE PROPERTY OD THOMAS SMITH THEIR FATHER MOSES DAY WAS ALSO COMMITTED FOR RECIEVING STOLEN GOODS.
WEDNESDAY APRIL 24TH 1799 ENGLAND
A FEW DAYS SINCE ONE OF THE PEOPLE CALLED GYPSIES WHOSE NAME WAS ANN DAY AT THE AGE OF 108 YEARS UNDER A HEDGE NEAR HENLOW BEDFORDSHIRE DIED AND WAS BURIED AT ARISEY NEAR THIS TOWN.
HER FUNERAL WAS ATTENDEDBY A VAST CONCOURSE OF PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBOURING VILLAGES BUT ONLY BY TWO OF THE PEOPLE TO WHICH SHE BELONGED, WHO CALLED THEMSELVES HER SON & DAUGHTER THE FORMER 82 AND LATTER 89 YEARS OF AGE AND EACH HAVING GREAT GRAND CHILDREN.
THIS WELL KNOWN CHARACTER WAS FOR MANY YEARSPAST CONVEYED ROUND THE COUNTRY UPON A ASS ATTENDED BY 2 OR 3 FEMALES OF HER OWWN COMPLEXION
SHE HAD GROWN ALMOST DOUBLE AND HAD OFTEN DECLARED SHE HAD NEVER SLEPT IN A BED FOR 70YEARS AND FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS HAD NOT A TOOTH IN HER HEAD, NOR SIGHT FROM ONE EYE.
SHE LOST 3 OF HER TOES ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO BY THE FROST AND AT THE SAME TIME LOST THE USE OF ONE OF HER ARMS.

hello romany star i have two possibles for alma's mother!

charlotte joyce 1849????

charlotte cornford 1849????

i don't know if this will help at all??

thank you

trudy

have been told that my great granddad was a romany gypsy, George heaven born 1890 not sure where and had a daughter called ivy irene born 1911 in birmingham. i have found her birth details but they dont show a mothers maiden name. any help on where to go next.

Angie

thank you so much romany star for your help i really am greatful.

thank you

trudy

It'll be worth posting on the sites Ive mentioned. Ive already posted on Gypsies Passing Through for you. You need Alma's family before she was born, ie census reports pre 1881. I can do this if you havent already.

ok thank you for looking though


thank you


trudy