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Trudy
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24 Nov 2007 14:21 |
I am trying to trace information on my great grandparents so if someone could do a 1901 census lookup it would be really appreciated. The information I have is from my grandmothers marriage certificate of 1916. Emily Lindsay - age 20 at time of marriage. Fathers name - Francis William Lindsay. occupation, Taxi Driver.
Address at time of marriage - 15 Pickstone St, Manchester
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KathleenBell
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24 Nov 2007 14:34 |
Could this be the family in 1901? Your grandmother is down as Emma and not Emily, but Francis is a cab driver:-
Name: Francis W Lindsay Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 6 Lloyd Street
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 100 Household Members: Name Age Emma Lindsay 38 Emma Lindsay 5 Francis W Lindsay 39 James Lindsay 19 Jessie Lindsay 14
All born Salford, Lancashire
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3731; Folio: 74; Page: 15.
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Andrew
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24 Nov 2007 14:34 |
There is this entry. Fathers name is correct. Occupation Cab Driver. But Emma not Emily??
1901 England Census about Francis W Lindsay Name: Francis W Lindsay Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 100 Household Members: Name Age Emma Lindsay 38 Emma Lindsay 5 Francis W Lindsay 39 James Lindsay 19 Jessie Lindsay 14
Also on the same page on the census is George Lindsay and his family. also a cab driver. Possible brother for Francis?
Andy
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Andrew
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24 Nov 2007 14:39 |
I can't see a birth record for Emily, only Emma
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beesley William Thomas Salford 8d 119 Fine Harris Salford 8d 119 Jones Hannah Salford 8d 119 >>>>Lindsay Emma Salford 8d 119 Rooney Ada Elizabeth Salford 8d 119 Sharples Elsie Salford 8d 119 Smith Sidney Salford 8d 119 Smith William Salford 8d 119 Stephenson Arthur Salford 8d 119 Stretch Matilda Salford 8d 119
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Trudy
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24 Nov 2007 14:39 |
Kath and Andy
Many thanks for looking up for me. You have both come up with the same result which I reckon is the family I am looking for. Emily was the daughter if Francis and Emma would be his wife. Brilliant! Thanks Trudy
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Trudy
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24 Nov 2007 14:46 |
Hi Andy
Can I just check through with you.
My grandmother Emily Linday was born 19/09/1896 and died 1st quarter 1982.
Her father was Francis William Lindsay.
I didn't know my family which is why I am doing this research. I am doing it blindly so I am bound to make mistakes. Have I made the right connections?
Thanks Trudy
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KathleenBell
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24 Nov 2007 14:51 |
What was Emily's surname at death?
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Trudy
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24 Nov 2007 14:54 |
Hi Kath
Emily Lindsay- Married name Lockett.
Many thanks
Trudy
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Andrew
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24 Nov 2007 15:00 |
I can't see the marriage record. Can you tell where the got married from the cert. Who where the witnesses?
Andy
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KathleenBell
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24 Nov 2007 15:01 |
Well, her death is definitely registered with the first name Emily. However I think that because of her father's name and occupation matching on both the marriage certificate and the 1901 census she must be the Emma birth that Andy found as there is no Emily on the complete index. Perhaps she was known as Emily so as not to be mixed up with her mother.
The only other alternative birth in the same year and qtr. is for an Emmeline Lindsay registered Oldham, 8d, 749. However I think the name of father and occupation on the 1901 census makes the Emma birth more likely.
UPDATE - just found Emmeline in the 1901 census (spelt Emeline) and her parents are William and Mary Ann and her father is an Overlocker - so this one definitely isn't yours. Your grandmother's birth has to have been registered as Emma.
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Trudy
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24 Nov 2007 15:08 |
Hi Andy Here is the full marriage certificate info. Emily Lindsay and Robert Lockett married at the parish church of St Augustine, Newton Heath, Manchester. DatGeorge Cotton and Minnie Barnes.
Robert Locketts fathers name is Charles Lockett- Occupation - carter. Address 17 Pickstone St.
Emily Lindsay address is 15 Pickstone St so it looks like nextdoor neighbour sweethearts.
Trudy
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Trudy
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24 Nov 2007 15:10 |
Hi Kath I agree that it is most likely to be the first. Thanks.
I want to try and go back as far as possible as this researching is so addictive besides finding my family.
Trudy
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Andrew
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24 Nov 2007 15:14 |
This is Robert from 1901 census
1901 England Census about Robt Lockett Name: Robt Lockett Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation: Son Father's Name: Chas Mother's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 141 Household Members: Name Age Alice Lockett 2 Chas Lockett 34 Ellen Lockett 8 Emma Lockett 30 Robt Lockett 5
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24 Nov 2007 15:19 |
I still can't find a marriage record. Maybe it wasn't recorded in the national registers, only at the local offices. I understand that some of the records were lost in World War 1.
EDIT found it. Thanks Kath
Andy
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KathleenBell
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24 Nov 2007 15:23 |
The marriage is in the index under Robert's name, spouse Lindsay. It's the September qtr. of 1916, Prestwich district. However Ancestry is playing up and I can't get any images for the page using Lindsay as the surname.
UPDATE - just tried again and the Lindsay page is now coming up. She has definitely married with the name Emily. (I'm really fed up of Ancestry today - it is on and off every 5 minutes).
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Trudy
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24 Nov 2007 15:35 |
Thanks Kath Didn't realize Ancestry was playing up. You are a star.
Trudy
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24 Nov 2007 15:37 |
Hi Andy
I have the census records on Robert Lockett. Is there any chance you are able to go back any further than 1901 census for Francis William Lindsay?
Trudy
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24 Nov 2007 15:40 |
Kath
I have just asked Andy and could I also ask you the favour. Are you able to look back any further than the 1901 census for Francis William Lindsay? Any help is really appreciated on this.
Trudy
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KathleenBell
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24 Nov 2007 15:44 |
I don't know why, but for some reason Frederick and Emma are on the census in 1891 as Frank and Ann !!! It's definitely the same family though because son James and daughter Jessie are with them and Frank (or Frederick) is still a cab driver:-
Name: Frank Lindsay Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias Town: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 6 Diamond Street
Occupation: Cab driver
Condition as to marriage: married
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Ann Lindsay 28 Frank Lindsay 29 James Lindsay 8 Jessie Lindsay 4
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3217; Folio 150; Page 21; GSU roll: 6098327.
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Andrew
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24 Nov 2007 15:45 |
This should be 1881 before he married. Mother Jane is a widow.
1881 England Census about Frank Lindsay Name: Frank Lindsay Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 14 Prospect St Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Hooker (FHT) Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Jackson 27 Eliza J. Lindsay 9 Frank Lindsay 18 George Lindsay 14 Jane Lindsay 40 Martha A. Lindsay 12
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