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I am trying to help my 65 year old father to gain information on his father.My father was told that his father was a Grenadier Guard.But he never met him.

My fathers name is Richard Charles Sloper
DOB 15/08/42
Place of Birth he beleives to be in South Africa but the birth was registered at Harrow by his mother Dorothea Livermore who died in 1996 and was born 1908. In later life she married Arthur Knight.

I have requested a full birth cirtificate for my father but this will take two weeks.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Dionne Kendrick

Unfortunately, Dionne, until you have the birth cert, you can't begin to trace this person..........you need to have his name.

Was his mother married to his father?

Reg

if she wasnt married to his dad then you will have to wait until yours dads cert arrives,. if she was married to him then we try a marriage look up

The birth was registered in Hendon district in JAS 1942..............how did the mother get from South Africa to England so quickly, with a new-born baby, in wartime?

Reg

there is this marriage,


o/n/n 1930 herbert j sloper -dorothea m livermore ,bromley v2a page 1455

Dear reggie

I agree with what you are saying.My father seems to think he was born in South Africa but isnt very sure.I think he was born in England.
My father served in the royal navy and was estranged from his mother for several years. On finally meeting up with her all that she would tell him was that his father had the surname Sloper and was serving in the grenadier guards. We have no information on his father at all.I have received an email listing a marriage between a Herbert J Sloper and Dorothea Maud Livermore dated 1930 in Bromley. Could info be obtained from my father's service records service number P/L 978064 which unfortunately he does not have.
Thankyou in anticipation
Dionne Kendrick

Dionne your dads service records will only have the info he gave when he enlisted and then details of where he was stationed throughtout his service career.

If they were married in 1930 and your dad not born until 1942 does he have any siblings?

Hi Selena

My father was told that he had a brother who was born before him.His brother died at around six months of age and he thinks he was called David or Adam. He has no idea as to the year of his birth or death.
Hope this helps
Dionne

Dionne
looks like he had a sister Jean

Mar qtr 1934
Jean A Sloper mmn Livermore Woolwich 1d 1295.

Will carry on looking!!

another sister??


Sept qtr 1937

Judith c Sloper mmn Livermore Willesden 3a 586

I am amazed at how fast you can find this information out .My father has no knowledge of any sisters.Do you think they could really be his sisters and have you come across a brother (Adam or David) who died at 6 months old?
Many thanks
Dionne

havent come across a david or adam. searchng deaths now!!

I have also managed to find out that my fathers mother had a sister called Constance(Connie) Livermore. She was a younger sister but dont know her birth year. Constance had a daughter who she named Joyce.
Hope this helps
thankyou Dionne

Would this be Dorothea? Do you know where she was born?

Births Mar 1908 (>99%)

Livermore Dorothy Ethel M Braintree 4a 889

I would be pretty certain about the sisters, same father's name and same mother's maiden name.

Selena

This could be Constance's birth?

Births Sep 1910 (98%)
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LIVERMORE Constance W. Ham 4a 392

well both girls are sloper with mothers maiden name of livermore

have searched the deaths from1934 - 1942 inc and not found any deaths for the girls names or a David/Adam

Dorothea was born on the 31st October 1908
hope this helps
Dionne

Dorothea isnt registerd in the Oct-Dec qtr of 1908 would say that birth ref of mar 1908 more likely

well i have looked at all qtrs from 1930 to end 1942 and those two girls are the only ones showing with mmn Livermore. No davd/Adam.

the only boy is your dad in 1942