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I've been doing a bit more on my Smoothy family and realise that although I know where she lived at the end of her life, I have lost my great-great aunt in 1881 and 1891.

My missing auntie: SMOOTHY, Emily Esther 1862 Born in Richmond, Surrey 18 March and baptised 27 April. 1871 she is 10, a scholar, with her family at 24 The Green, Richmond. 1881 her mother, father and her younger brother and sister were all living at Vestry Cottage, Richmond. [Her elder sister, Elizabeth Louisa, was an undermaid in a household in Speldhurst - mistranscribed as Smothey.] 1901 she is 39, living unmarried and unoccupied with her sister Elizabeth, who is now a widow, in Wandsworth. Can anyone find her 1881/1891 pleeeeease? nell

Hi Nell, Have you seen this one? Is she your missing Smoothy or maybe a relative? Mousley could be what we know call Molesley which is fairly near Richmond. Louise --- Arthur Smoothy abt 1835 Safforn Walden, Essex, England Head Twickenham Arthur J. Smoothy abt 1869 Mousley, Surrey, England Son Twickenham Clara Smoothy abt 1872 Mousley, Surrey, England Daughter Twickenham Emily E. Smoothy abt 1864 Mousley, Surrey, England Daughter Twickenham Emma Smoothy abt 1845 Sunbury, Middlesex, England Wife Twickenham Florence Smoothy abt 1880 Twickenham, Middlesex, England Daughter Twickenham Nellie Smoothy abt 1878 Twickenham, Middlesex, England Daughter Twickenham Source information: RG11/1341 Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Twickenham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 62 Page: 65

Nell Found these............ Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Arthur SMOOTHY Head M Male 46 Safforn Walden, Essex, England Baker Emma SMOOTHY Wife M Female 36 Sunbury, Middlesex, England Emily E. SMOOTHY Daur U Female 17 Mousley, Surrey, England Photography Assistant Arthur J. SMOOTHY Son Male 12 Mousley, Surrey, England Scholar Clara SMOOTHY Daur Female 9 Mousley, Surrey, England Scholar Nellie SMOOTHY Daur Female 3 Twickenham, Middlesex, England Scholar Florence SMOOTHY Daur Female 1 Twickenham, Middlesex, England but this Emily was born 1864 think Mousley is meant to be Molesey but i think they must tie in somewhere with your Smoothy as they are living 2 Elizabeth Cotts Twickenham, Middlesex, England Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1341 / 62 Page Number 65

Nell there is not a single smoothy in 1881 that was born in 1862!!!!

Nell just been nosing around and found this...... EMILY ESTHER SMOOTHY Female Christening: 27 APR 1862 Saint Mary Magdalen, Richmond, Surrey, England Parents: Father: JOHN SMOOTHY Family Mother: ANN this I presume is your Emily????????? So this one must be the one we found in the 1881 census????? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EMILY ELIZA SMOOTHY Female Christening: 04 DEC 1864 East Molesey, Surrey, England Parents: Father: ARTHUR doesn't help much except to rule out the one found in 1881 Shelli

Ladies Thank you all so much. Yes, I did find the Emily Smoothy b. East Molesey, father Arthur. As far as I know they are not related to my Smoothys :-( My Smoothy family started with John Smoothy who was born in Chelmsford and moved to Richmond with his wife shortly after they married in Kennington. Their 4 children were all born at 24, The Green, Richmond which he kept as a lodging house. Around 1875 [that year's street directory is missing from Richmond Local Studies Centre!] he moved to Vestry Cottage and remained there as parish beadle/vestry messenger/coroner's officer/assistant overseer of the poor until he died in 1894. I am sure Emily Esther was working in 1881 and 1891 but I just don't know where - I've found her parents and siblings, but she must be very badly mistranscribed SOMEWHERE!!! Thanks again, everyone, for looking. nell

Anyone else up for a challenge? nell

Nell Just so you don't think you're talking to yourself, I spent about an hour earlier having a look after seeing your thread last night. I see what you mean about the lady being well hidden or hideously mistranscribed cos I couldn't see anything on either census that you can even have said 'Well she's a possible'! Will have another mooch when I've made a cuppa! Lou

Lou Thank you for looking - you've earned your cuppa! I did a search on 1881 with just Emily and her birth year and place and trawled through tons of Emilys but none looked remotely likely. So frustrating, but at least I know when/where she got married and died. I got all excited when I went to Richmond Local History Centre and found that living next door to her brother on the electoral roll was her future husband, so I guess she met him over the garden fence! nell

I think I've found her in 1891...........just need to check image Esta

Nell, Found her in 1891 and you'll never guess what the mis-transcription is........?......TIMOTHY !! Name: Timothy, Emily Age in 1891: 29 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: Richmond, Surrey Civil parish: Paddington Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: County: London Source information: RG12/14 Registration district: Paddington Sub registration district: St John Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 13 Page: 20 the address is 41 Hyde Park Sq - very posh house ....... LOL I've looked at the image and I am almost sure it is your lady ( she's 2 up from the bottom ).....what do you think..?! Esta

Esta Wow! I am impressed! Mind you, as I found her brother on the 1901 census as 'Lenorthey' I can't say 'Timothy' was that much of a surprise! What a shame that the census filler-inners didn't do plain capitals when writing. It makes it soooo hard when the first initial is wrong. More grateful than I can say - any chance you could e-mail me the image? nell

Nell......I'm really sorry I can't email the image to you ( That's why I put all the ref numbers on for you ) I'm sure someone can email it to you. Just been trying 1881 but no luck. She's not with the same family ( that would have been too easy ). I have 'family' in Paddington in 1881/1891 but mine are all in slums or tiny houses with about 20 to a room.......why can't mine be in the posh area like yours, even as housemaids..!! Esta

Nell Found an Emily Hooper born 1862 Richmond Surrey working as a Servant in London on the 1881. Just downloading the image now to see whether it might be your girl Lou

Esta Thanks anyway, I can look it up when I next go to the FRC - you have given me the gen, for which I am very grateful. If it makes you feel better, Emily's mum and dad's address in Richmond in the commercial directories was 'Old Burying Ground' - they had a lovely view of the graves. Lou I'm getting very excited now! Fingers crossed. nell

Nell This one definitely says Emily Jane Hooper on the image so don't think its her. I'll e mail you the 1891 image if you send me your addie Lou

Lou I guess it isn't her - she is definitely Emily Esther and says so on all other records I can find. thank you so much for trying though, and at least I know where she was in 1981. nell

Nell I'm not sure the 1891 girl is her Found this for 1871 Ann Timothy 44 Stoke, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Richmond Surrey Edith M Timothy 1 Richmond Daughter Richmond Surrey Elizabeth L Timothy 11 Richmond Daughter Richmond Surrey Emily E Timothy 10 Richmond Daughter Richmond Surrey John Timothy 58 Chelmsford, Essex, England Head Richmond Surrey John D R Timothy 2 Richmond Son Richmond Surrey Lou

Wow! Back after watching ER and lots of progress on this thread! If you look at the image of the 1871 Timothys on Ancestry, it is actually the Smoothy family, so it looks like a match to me. Louise