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REPLIES Lisa - re Hardings at Sutton Veny: 1821 HARDING John - 1m and 1f 1831 HARDING John - 1m (over 20) 1f, living at Sutton Magna HARDING Joseph - 1m (over 20) 1f, living at Sutton Magna Lisa - re Simpkins at Lydiard Tregoze. Sorry there were none listed (1697, 1700, 1701) Michael - re Crough at Horningsham: 20th July 1797 Lower Shute: CROUCH James, shearman to Everett. Wife nee DANIEL. Children, 2m under 7, 1m & 2f above 7 and brother. House, middling. The Butts: CROUCH Edward, married to Hannah BROWN. Children, 3m & 1f under 7. May 1799 Lower Shute: CROUCH James, shearman to Mr Everett. Married William DANIEL's daughter. Children, 1m under7, 2m & 2f above 7. One lodger: a blind idiot brother. House bad repair, garden tolerable. Man industrious, but does not belong to Horningsham. West Common: CROUCH Edward, foreman to Mr Everett. Married to Hannah BROWN. Children, 4m & 1f under 7. House good repair, family industrious. House and garden neatly kept. NB Left parish and gone to Chard. 1801 Lower Shute: CROUCH James, shearman, wife and children, 2m & 3f above 7. One lodger. House of John HARMAN. Meeting House Lane: CROUCH Edward, foreman to Mr Everett's dyehouse. Wife and children, 3m under 7, 2m & 1f above 7. Best Wishes All Sarah

REPLY Marion - So sorry, of course I have Highworth! My mistake. I will do the lookups tomorrow night. Gillie - Good Heavens - what a lot!!! That's fine - see this space same time tomorrow. Nite Nite Sarah

Hi sarah Just jumping in here to let all you Wiltshire family historians know of a most helpful site: http://freespace*virgin*net/genealogical*collections/Wiltshire*htm Records of civil & census info, excerpts from newspapers. Worth a ganda ( remove * ) Much happiness Debi Ps Sarah ........ keep up the good work ;o)

Thanks for your help Sarah. Lisa

REPLIES Gillie - re Heavens - I searched for variations of this name in Lidiard Tregoze, Wootton Bassett, Liddington, 5 Tythings and Highworth and there wasn't even one!! Sorry. Marion - re Gibbs and Strange. There were no Strange in Highworth, but there were some Gibbs families. a=number in house emp in agriculture. t=number in house employed in trade, manufacture or handicrafts u=unemployed (inc young children): 1811 GIBBS Asher 1m, 2f, 1a, 2u GIBBS Charles 2m, 1f, 2a, 1u GIBBS John 1m, 1u GIBBS Richard 3m, 4f, 2a, 1t, 4u GIBBS Robert 1m, 1f, 1a, 1u All except the first family were living at East Tything. Asher's family did not have their place of residence recorded. June - re Partridge at Calne. Unfortunately I don't have any records for Calne, so don't have any data for you (see the list of parishes on page one) Debi - Thanks for your earlier message! Sarah

Hello Sarah, Thanks for the info, very helpful and much appreciated. Mike

Thanks for your offer Sarah - how exciting! My 3x g grandparents William Nevell (Neville) & Ann Sidney were married in Trowbridge in 1826. Could you have a look to see if you can find any signs of them? Gillian

REPLY Gillian - re Nevell and Sidney in Trowbridge. Only one family to be found I'm afraid. The good news was that the Trowbridge records are indexed so I had an (almost) alphabetical list to work from. The bad news is that the index does not include all the data on the original record. The missing info is the ages of the people in the households which are on the original record in the 1841-style 5 year bands. Unfortunately the 1821 census only has the names of heads of household, but if you need to know about the age bands for those in the household, you would need to contact the Wilts RO quoting '1821 Trowbridge census, ref 206/119 book one of six'. Hopefully, from that they would be able to find this family, who were living at an address called, 'Courts, Trowbridge'. After all that, here's the record! SYDNEY Richard, 2m, 4f Hubby says, are your Sidneys related to Miss Ann Sydney who won the Miss World competition in 1964??? He asks because he want's everyone to know that his brother was her boyfriend for a year or so after she won the comp!!! I could understand his bragging if he was talking about himself!!! Best Wishes Sarah Very enlightening!!

Thank you very much for looking & for the info - I shall certainly follow that reference up. I would never have got that without you! I didn't really expect the Nevells to be there but just thought I would check. Well it would certainly be a challenge - trying to make the connection with Ann Sydney Miss World - but I don't intend to take it up! Highly unlikely I should think - no beauties in my family! Regards to hubby - tell him I'm impressed even if you're not! Gillian

REPLY Wendy re Speck and Haines/Haynes - Sorry, there were none by these names on the Highworth census. if there are any other parishes you would like me to check, let me know! Sarah

Hi Sarah Thank you for this I am looking for any Lydiards/lediards in Lydiard Tregoze and also Highworth Thanks for your time Tracy

REPLIES Wendy - re Speck/Haines - The only parish I have from your last message is Wroughton (see the list on page 1 of the thread). There were no Specks or Haines recorded. Sorry. Tracy - re Lydiard in Lydiard Tregoze and Highworth. Amazingly, there was no one in Lydiard Tregoze whose surname began with 'L' at all!! No Lydiards/Lediards etc in Highworth either. Sorry. Sarah

Ok thanks for looking Tracy

Sarah Thanks for looking anyway, much appreciated! Wendy

Hi Sarah I am looking for the Gibbons family in Box my 3rd Great Grandmother Sarah was christened in 1800 in Box. What a find thank you so much. Regards Maureen

REPLY Maureen - re Gibbons in Box (I would certainly keep gibbons in a box lol) The parish of Box was divided into five areas for the purposes of collecting the 1811 census. Different information was taken in each of the areas. The five 'books' are held at the Wilts RO under ref 'WRO 1719/78'. This is what I found in the transcript (all spellings are as shown) District 1 GIBBINS Mark (36) Hanna (34) children, 10, 8, 5, 3, and 1 District 2 GIBBINS Ben (with Jas LITTLE) District 3 GIBBONS Mark (lab), William, Thomas, Isac, George, Hannah and Sarah GIBBONS Thomas, Mary and Betty (with Thomas HANCOCK) District 4 & 5 - No Gibbons So it looks like Your Sarah is going to be either the youngest child in the first family, or the last person listed in the first District 3 family. In either case it looks extremely likely that her father was named Mark!! Looks like you will have to get hold of the parish reg's to work this out! Sarah

Hi Sarah I agree Sarah but I'd keep a Gibbon in a gage not a box lol. Thank you so much I am really grateful by the way the first Mark is mine now I need to find Sarah's siblings names. I think I'll try and get a friend who lives in wiltshire to look it up for me.. Once again thank you so much Regards Maureen

Hello Sarah :-) I'm afraid I don't have many details but I'm looking for Brokenbrows in Box! It would be great if you could have a look for me. Helenxx

Can I ask where did you buy them and were they costly. Would dearly love to have some myself. Irene

REPLIES Helen - re Brokenbrow - A very unusual name?? Sorry, but there were none in Box in 1801 Irene - I'm fairly certain I got the fiche from the Wilts Family History Soc. I'm 100% certain they were not expensive. I bought them on a whim, and that's not like me!! See http://www.wiltshirefhs(.)co.uk/publications.htm#census (remove brackets) I see you can buy the lists of people who paid their Hair Powder Tax in 1796/97!!! Sarah