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I am going to get in touch with Sandwell archives and order a copy of this marriage certificate, William Berry Emily Pitt st Bartholomews Wednesbury, I am also ordering her birth cert from West Bromwich register office. Regards Richard

Good news! The right thing to do. will tell us both their dads names, then will know for sure who to look backwards for. have you done the alteration on your main tree yet? On your tree ... You need to change Lucy Elizabeth HOLMES b 1893 to Lucy Elizabeth MITCHELL b 1893 She is the daughter of George Henry Mitchell b 1871 and Lucy Madeley b 1869 Jess x

From WMBMD.John Pitt married Elizabeth Dudley 1855 St Martins church Tipton .Ref Sandwell 39/7/478.Lindy

Thank you to everyone who is helping and supporting me, Can anyone please find the postal adress for Sandwell Register office and please can you explain what I must explain in my letter. Then tommorow morning I can get a postal order and send off for the certificate. Regards Richard

Send this Application to: Superintendent Registrar, Sandwell Register Office, Highfields, High Street, West Bromwich, West Midlands, B70 8RJ You SHOULD really complete the application forms from the BMD site Richard ... there is a small chance that they will ignore your letter of request ... but you can always try. You need to explain that you are unable to make an application any other way than the way you are doing by letter. Tell them the certificate you require: Marriage of William Berry to Emily Pitt in Sandwell Year and then the Reference number you have got. Same for the birth. Birth Name: Emily Pitt Sub District: Wednesbury Year: 1873 Reference Number: WED/57/364 Good luck Elaine :-)

I dont understand why they could ignore my request why is this? Richard

By the way, Richard, in answer to the question you asked earlier about why the GRO index entry would not show the mother's maiden name in this case although somebody got the same information in the case of your grandfather, that would be because mother's maiden name was added to the index about 1911, so entries before that would not contain the mother's maiden name on the index. Kate.

Hi Richard, In answer to your question, why might they ignore your request if not put on an order form ? They possibly WILL sort out your request ...BUT if they don't it will be because they have provided an order form online, already printed up with the details on, so they have quick and easy access. They MAY use a computerised system .. I don't know. All you can do is try Richard .. and see what happens. Obviously, not everyone is able to print out the correct order forms ... so you must be able to write to them with an application for a certificate. I would keep going Richard ..... they should send you the certificates. You should be able to get BOTH certificates from the same place as if I remember properly, both references were found on WestMidlandsBMD site for Sandwell. I'll check that it is £7 for each certificate and get back to you. Elaine :-) YES, certs are £7 each .... but it doesn't tell you WHO to make cheques/postal orders out to .... I wonder if anyone else knows ?

I've ordered a certificate before now from West Bromwich and I did it in the form of a letter as I don't have a printer. I included all the information that Elaine has stated already and I also included a telephone number where they could contact me if they needed to query anything. I had no problems getting the certificate without the actual order form from the website

POSTAL APPLICATIONS If you apply by post please complete this form and enclose a stamped addressed envelope and the appropriate fee in sterling. Information about the cost of certificates may be obtained from any register office. All remittances should be made payable to the appropriate authority as given here and cheques should be crossed '/& Co/' Do not send cash. This application form should be sent to the Superintendent Registrar of the district where the marriage occurred. Still don't know WHO to make postal order payable to !!! Got to go Elaine :-)

Postal orders made payable to Superintendent Registrar

Could someone please find the Pariish and ref for this certificate. John Holmes Hannah Marie Corbett West Bromwich 1886. Please find the Sandwell ref. Regards Richard

Another one for the Sandwell Registry Office Richard. http://www.bmsgh(.)org ....remove the () from address Marriage 1886 CORBETT Hannah M HOLMES John Wednesbury, St John, Sandwell 34/3/443 Elaine :-)

Tommorow afternoon I am catching the bus to West Bromwich and I can call into the register office and I am going to order these certificates. This way I can be sure of recieving them, Regards Richard

OK Richard. Good Luck Elaine & Jess :-))

Good for you Richard:-) They probably wont be able to give you the certificates tomorrow but they will post them to you or tell you when you can collect them. Heather:-)

Do I have to ring the register office to book an opointment or can I just arrive?

Hi Richard I didn't have an appointment when I went to order a certificate but you could ring them first. There was a lady at the reception desk who gave me a form to fill in with my name and address and the details of the certificate I was ordering. Heather

Will they ask me to show proof of identity or anything like that?

No Richard I don't think so. Remember to have all the details and the Sandwell reference numbers with you then they'll deal with it quicker. Heather