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Richard, Wednesbury, as you know, would come under the West Bromwich district. West Bromwich has the reference number 6b after 1852. There are NO John Pitt 's marrying under the 6b ref between and including Dec 1854 to Dec 1857 on the Marriage Indexes on 1837online. This means a) that John did NOT marry in Wednesbury - but I find this hard to believe. or b) He married Elizabeth before Dec 1854 or after Dec 1857. Since we can not find a DEFINATE marriage for John Pitt to Elizabeth ... then we NEED to know Emily's Mum';s name from the birth certificate ... at least then we can search again. Dancer

Richard, You asked for Emily Pitt's rference number for her birth at the Registry Office. I have found this on West Midlands BMD site - given to me by Heather who is helping out so much :http://www.bmsgh.org/cgi/birthind.cgi Name: Emily Pitt Sub District: Wednesbury Year: 1873 Reference Number: WED/57/364 The register is held at Sandwell, so you would have to get the phone number ... unless someone has already given it to you and you have written it down. It will STILL cost you £7 ... they will NOT tell you what information is on the certificate. Dancer

Richard, Dancer is working as hard as she can on this - she hasn't forgotten you. There are a few of us tying to put all the peices together for you. Give us just a little while please. Jess x

and so are: Jess, Tracy, Heather, Jeanette, Rosemary ... to name just a few.......... Dancer

Message from Richard, 'Derby, please can you find the marriage of Elizabeth Brookes and John Johnson in West Bromwich. I would guess around 1920. Regards Richard '

INFORMATION ABOUT CERTIFICATES STANDARD CERTIFICATES This is a full copy of the marriage entry. POSTAL APPLICATIONS If you apply by post please complete this form and enclose a stamped addressed envelope and the appropriate fee in sterling. Information about the cost of certificates may be obtained from any register office. All remittances should be made payable to the appropriate authority as given here and cheques should be crossed '/& Co/' Do not send cash. This application form should be sent to the Superintendent Registrar of the district where the marriage occurred. Do not use this form for making applications to the REGISTRAR GENERAL. Dancer :-) Do you want anything else Richard > The birth and marriage have both been found ... and we MAY have found Emily's Mum's maiden name ...but you need to buy the cert to confirm it.

On your tree ... You need to change Lucy Elizabeth HOLMES b 1893 to Lucy Elizabeth MITCHELL b 1893 She is the daughter of George Henry Mitchell b 1871 and Lucy Madeley b 1869 They married 1892 (Sept qtr) 1892 in West Bromwich. Lucy Mitchell married Joseph Holmes and had Margaret Lucy Holmes in 1925 Elaine :-)

Richard, Why do you keep nudging this thread onto page 1 ? your not asking for any further information. Anything you do ask will be answered. Information you need from this thread can be looked at without nudging Richard. Have you asked a question that has not been answered yet ? Elaine :-)

Please can someone find the marriage ref for William Jones and Jane Garbett West Bromwich 1897. Please find the gro for purchasing this certificate from West Bromwich register office, Regards Richard

Hi Richard, Have you ever used FreeBMD ? its a FREE site and although its not 100% complete, it MAY have the marriage listed. Type in FreeBMD into your search facility on your browser ... it should thow up the site ...then click on it. Just incase you know how to enter an address: http://freebmd.rootsweb(.)com ..remove() from address. Enter the names of the two people and the year and see IF it throws up a match. I will check for you as well ... but you need to learn how to do this, so you can help yourself with these little things. Elaine :-)

Did you manage to find it Richard ? .. it IS on FreeBMD. I will post the info when you have had a chance to look for yourself. Elaine :-)

Richard Do you have a printer? Please answer. Heather:-)

Ether, Yes I do have a printer but it isnt working at the moment Regards Richard

Derby, Sorry but I do not understand how to use this site, please can you find it for me. Regards Richard

Richard, get yourself onto the site - its free. Then scroll down a bit to where it says SEARCH put in the names there, it will tell you the ref number when it has has a little 'Chug' then YOU can post the ref for US to see- show us how good you are! C'mon you can do that Jess

Hi Richard Thank you for the reply and I'm sorry to hear that your printer isn't working at the moment. Heather

Have found it 6b 1016. But I need the gro number for West Bromwich register office please, Regards Richard

Well done Richard. WHERE did you find it ....on FreeBMD ? If you can find that GRO Ref on FreeBMD then you can find the Register Office reference on: WestMidlandsBMD http://www.bmsgh.org Once your on ... click on marriages and then you will see on the next page, a picture of a certificate. Under the certificate is some red writing 'Search the marriage indexes' ...click on the red writing. You have to scroll down the next page until you find where you have to put the names in. Make sure you find the correct year as well and click on the year. I'll go and check for you .... do it with me ! Elaine :-)

I need to go and look after my family for a short while now Richard, I have 7 rabbits, a cat and two children, so I need to spend some time with them. I'll be back on later. Here is the info you wanted: GARBETT Jane JONES William West Bromwich Register Office Sandwell WBRO/29/98 Elaine :-)

Well done Richard. When we give little bits aback to you to do its because we want YOu to help US build YOUR tree - its your tree ! Off to get my tea now too see you later