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brenda, thats spooky coz ive seen kids born with mothers surname chapman now i know who they belong to, my uncle woohoo, on ancestry saw this and in enfield and dads name is steven coulstock, think i saw 2 kids ive put them in shoe box just incase and its right and youve confirmed it hun. THANX brenda xx

hi brenda, thanx for all your emails today with lots of info for me. thankyou jo x

Hi Joanne, It my be worth giving your local records office a call. I recently did a tree for a friend and found her grandfathers death on the staffs bmd, only it does not include the ages, and as I wanted to confirm his birth year I then looked on the gro index. It was not there at all. It sounds as if you may be having the same problem. Julie

hi julie, ok its worth a try, anything is worth a try just as long as i can find my dads grave, thanx for letting me know, i will do it next week as bank holiday now. jo

hi brenda, trust me to start all this, if id known it was going to be a vey complicated tree lol i wouldnt of bothered but i do enjoy it though, its very addictive, its all i ever do now and il be the 1 in the family that did it all even if it does take me years. so looks like my nan has been married 3 times now! lol do you think she married frederick again after lol so twicw each man and so many kids. my mum said she met a paul so that must be the 1, il see if i can get addresses for these aswell. thanx brenda jo x

Hi Joanne Sent you a PM Gertrude P Atkin Death in Bermondsey. June Quarter 1961 age 41 years. REF: 5c 114. Janice x

hi brenda, that sound better dosent it coz in the area, can i have info plz? thanx jo x

hi janice,] sent you a reply, thanx for finding my nans death, where did you find it? jo

Hi Joanne Found death on 1837 which lists deaths, births & marriages from 1837 up to 2004. I have a years ubscription. Have been checking all three names for marriage and deaths, left Atkin till last thinking she was Herbert and may have gone back to maiden name, had already checked Coulstock right through and no joy. So process of ellimination tool me to Atkin and going on information posted decided to look from 1957 through to 1970 in first instance, and came upon it right there in 1861. Janice xx

hi janice, well im glad in a way that its been found now as my mum was right aswell and its closure on her but also can try and find my dads grave again now i have a death for his mum. thanx again jo x

Nudged for Joanne. Kath. x

thanx kathleen, i didnt have this post in my list for some reason. joanne