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Cyril
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28 Sep 2006 20:37 |
Hi trying to trace siblings of my father, CHARLES WILLIAM ROBERTS, lived in and around STOCKPORT 192? to his death in 1987 known as Charlie, worked for Senior Service cigarettes, but best known as a Taxi driver. has a number of brothers and sisters. Beatie went to Scotland in 1940 but may have come back to Stockport in later years, she lived at one time in St. Augustines road Cheadle Heath ( Brinksway). Other brothers worked in and around Stockport, one at Mills Steel Works. Unfortunately due to circumstances I dont know names. Edgeley is one area that the Roberts family lived Chatham St I think. Also he had connections with religious groups, would welcome any info.
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Paul
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29 Sep 2021 12:45 |
Hi Cyril, Here is a list of the Roberts siblings: Beatrice Vivian Roberts born 1906, Dublin. Cecil George Roberts born 1908, Hulme, Chorlton, South Manchester. George Alexander Roberts born 1909, Hulme, Chorlton, South Manchester. Charles William Roberts born 1911, Hulme, Chorlton, South Manchester. Kathleen Roberts born 1916, 14 Caroline Street, Stockport. Dennis Roberts born 1920, 14 Caroline Street, Stockport. Eileen Mary Roberts born 1922 14 Caroline Street, Stockport. Stay safe and well, Paul.
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ErikaH
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29 Sep 2021 12:49 |
Cyril is no longer a member of GR and cannot be contacted through this site
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greyghost
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29 Sep 2021 12:53 |
Paul, welcome to the boards.
Unfortunately, you've replied to a 15 year old thread. (you're not the only one to do that). If Cyril was still a member we'd suggest that you clicked on his name to send a Personal message through the GR system. They could forward if he then had the same email address he registered with them. He is however no longer a member so that option is not available.
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Paul
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29 Sep 2021 14:44 |
Thanks for your concern - Cyril is my Uncle and I do have a postal address so I guess I'll have to write.
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2021 16:24 |
Charles Roberts in the 1911 England Census Name: Charles Roberts Age in 1911: 1/12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Hulme Civil Parish: South Manchester Country: England Street Address: 87 Booth St Hulme Manchester Registration District Number: 464 Sub-registration District: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Piece: 23878 Household Members: Name Age George Roberts 27 Marie Roberts 26 Beatrice Roberts 4 Cecil Roberts 3 George Roberts 1 Charles Roberts 1/12
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Paul
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5 Oct 2021 05:10 |
Thank you ArgyllGran for posting this. I am not able to find George Roberts of 28 Chatham St, Edgeley, Stockport on the 1939 Register. Suggestions anyone please?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Oct 2021 06:22 |
Paul
Not all entries are open .
If the death hasn’t been picked up at the last update they did then an entry will still be closed
Depending on his age if he had joined up for the war then he wouldn’t show anyway
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ArgyllGran
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5 Oct 2021 09:22 |
Paul, which George do you mean - assuming you mean one of the Georges in the 1911 family? Father or son?
This looks like the son, with wife Edna, probably brother Dennis, and one closed record:
George H Roberts [ George A Roberts on image ] in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: George H Roberts [George A Roberts] Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 18 Dec 1909 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 69. Cheadle Rd Residence Place: Cheadle and Gatley, Cheshire, England Occupation: Builders Labourer & Driver Heavy Work Line Number: 7 Schedule Number: 2 Sub Schedule Number: 4 Enumeration District: LEMG Borough: Cheadle and Gatley Registration district: 443 B/3 Household Members Age Edna Roberts 21 - 27 Nov 1918 Dennis Roberts 19 - 24 Aug 1920 This record is officially closed. George H Roberts 30
Marriages Jun 1937 (>99%) Birchenough Edna Roberts Stockport 8a 151 ROBERTS George A Birchenough Stockport 8a 151
Edna's surname changed to Willing by 1951, according to the 1939 Register.
?? (although no middle name in other records)
Marriages Dec 1942 (>99%) Richards Edna V Willing Solihull 6d 2100 Willing Leonard F Richards Solihull 6d 2100
Births Dec 1918 (>99%) Birchenough Edna Evans Stockport 8a 127
?? George Alexander Roberts in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: George Alexander Roberts Death Age: 79 Birth Date: 18 Dec 1908 Registration Date: Nov 1988 Registration District: Leigh Inferred County: Greater Manchester Volume: 39 Page: 2140
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ArgyllGran
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5 Oct 2021 09:39 |
Ah, I see it's the father George who was at 28 Chatham Street:
George Roberts in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 Name: George Roberts Death Date: 5 Mar 1950 Death Place: Cheshire, England Probate Date: 24 Apr 1950 Probate Registry: London, England
ROBERTS, George of 28 Chatham Street, Edgeley, Stockport, Cheshire died 5 March 1950. Probate London 24 April to Jessie Jones (wife of Arthur Jones). Effects £1091 2s 3d.
George Roberts in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: George Roberts Death Age: 68 Birth Date: abt 1882 Registration Date: Jan 1950[Feb 1950] [Mar 1950] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Stockport Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 10a Page: 641
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ArgyllGran
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5 Oct 2021 09:51 |
There's this George Roberts of about the right age in Chatham Street in 1939 - but not number 28, and with a different wife from the one on 1911. Also a wildly different occupation. George senior in 1911 was a brakesman - though in 1939 it does say "Former heavy worker".
A man called Harold Starkie lives at no 28 in 1939 - nobody called Roberts. {EDIT - No, my mistake - Harold is in Fox Street.}
George Roberts in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: George Roberts Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 22 Dec 1884 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 96 Chatham. St. Residence Place: Stockport, Cheshire, England Occupation: Fur Hatter Former Heavy Worker Line Number: 41 Schedule Number: 194 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: LCJH Borough: Stockport Registration district: 443-2 Inferred Spouse: Elizabeth Roberts Inferred Children: George Roberts Willie Roberts Harold Roberts Household Members Age George Roberts 55 Elizabeth Roberts 50 George Roberts 21 Willie Roberts 19 Harold Roberts 17
George Roberts in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: George Roberts Registration Year: 1911 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Stockport Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 42 Records on Page: Name Elizabeth Collier George Roberts
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Paul
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5 Oct 2021 19:08 |
Harold Starkie 1917 28 Fox Street, Stockport Stockport C.B. Cheshire England Harold Starkie was at 28 Fox Street not 28 Chatham Street. The entry for 28 Chatham Street if there is one has not been transcribed to the best of my knowledge.
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ErikaH
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5 Oct 2021 21:36 |
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Paul
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7 Oct 2021 03:42 |
SR District/Reg Area - Dublin South Marriage of GEORGE ROBERTS and MARY HUDSON on 28 October 1904 Party 1 Name GEORGE ROBERTS Party 2 Name MARY HUDSON Date of Event 28 October 1904 Group Registration ID 2009383 SR District/Reg Area Dublin South Image
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ErikaH
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7 Oct 2021 09:03 |
There are no open records for 28 Chatham Street in 1939 on FMP
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ArgyllGran
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7 Oct 2021 10:26 |
Yes, sorry - my mistake re Harold Starkie.
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Paul
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13 Nov 2021 00:28 |
Edna V Willing (Richards) 11 Nov 1906 Edna V Willing in Solihull has DOB 11/11/1906
Edna V Willing (Richards) in 1939 1939 Register 137 Flat 1 Soho Road, Birmingham, Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England 1939 register badge Household members (3 people) Copy to clipboard First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number George B Richards 26 May 1897 Male Electrical Engineer (Professional) Director And Manager Married 19 1 Edna V Willing (Richards) 11 Nov 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 19 2
Edna Birchenough/Roberts/Willing has DOB 27 Jan 1918 Stockport, Cheshire, England
Only one marriage comes up for Edna Roberts m. Willing and is in 1977 - a bit late in the show.
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ErikaH
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13 Nov 2021 10:27 |
What is the point you are trying to make, please?
The woman on the 1939 you have posted was named RICHARDS at the time and subsequently married a man named Willing
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ErikaH
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13 Nov 2021 11:36 |
Marriages Dec 1932 (>99%) Richards George B Whereat Birmingham 6d 1075 Whereat Edna V Richards Birmingham 6d 1075
Marriages Dec 1942 (>99%) Richards Edna V Willing Solihull 6d 2100 Willing Leonard F Richards Solihull 6d 2100
1911 Census For England & Wales 288 Victoria Road Aston Manor, Aston Manor, Warwickshire, England
Robert Minshall Whereat Head Married Male 45 1866 Advertising contractor Wiston S Mare Somerset Charlisena Whereat Wife Married Female 43 1868 - Bridgwater Somerset Lilian Whereat Daughter Single Female 19 1892 Commercial clerk Bristol Glo Dorothy Lydia Whereat Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Commercial clerk Aston Co of Warck Ivy Hilda Whereat Daughter - Female 14 1897 - Aston Co of Warck Robert Victor Whereat Son - Male 8 1903 - Aston Co of Warck Edna Victoria Whereat Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Aston Co of Warck
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I see that you have already been given the info about the 1942 marriage, although it was tied to the wrong Edna as the one you're looking into didn't have a second name and was twelve years younger. 'Yours' was never called Richards, either
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ErikaH
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13 Nov 2021 11:59 |
WILLING, EDNA 1918 GRO Reference: DOR Q4/1996 in SHEPWAY (5731A) Reg SSA7 Entry Number 246 Maiden name and birthplace should be on the cert
ROBERTS, GEORGE ALEXANDER 1908 GRO Reference: DOR Q4/1988 in LEIGH (0171) Volume 39 Page 2140 FMP has his DoB as 18/12/1908 1939 says 19/12/1909
Births Mar 1910 (>99%) ROBERTS George Alexander Chorlton 8c 886
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