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Cyril

Cyril Report 28 Sep 2006 20:37

Hi trying to trace siblings of my father, CHARLES WILLIAM ROBERTS, lived in and around STOCKPORT 192? to his death in 1987 known as Charlie, worked for Senior Service cigarettes, but best known as a Taxi driver. has a number of brothers and sisters. Beatie went to Scotland in 1940 but may have come back to Stockport in later years, she lived at one time in St. Augustines road Cheadle Heath ( Brinksway). Other brothers worked in and around Stockport, one at Mills Steel Works. Unfortunately due to circumstances I dont know names. Edgeley is one area that the Roberts family lived Chatham St I think. Also he had connections with religious groups, would welcome any info.

Paul

Paul Report 29 Sep 2021 12:45

Hi Cyril,
Here is a list of the Roberts siblings:
Beatrice Vivian Roberts born 1906, Dublin.
Cecil George Roberts born 1908, Hulme, Chorlton, South Manchester.
George Alexander Roberts born 1909, Hulme, Chorlton, South Manchester.
Charles William Roberts born 1911, Hulme, Chorlton, South Manchester.
Kathleen Roberts born 1916, 14 Caroline Street, Stockport.
Dennis Roberts born 1920, 14 Caroline Street, Stockport.
Eileen Mary Roberts born 1922 14 Caroline Street, Stockport.
Stay safe and well,
Paul.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Sep 2021 12:49

Cyril is no longer a member of GR and cannot be contacted through this site

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Sep 2021 12:53

Paul, welcome to the boards.

Unfortunately, you've replied to a 15 year old thread. (you're not the only one to do that).

If Cyril was still a member we'd suggest that you clicked on his name to send a Personal message through the GR system. They could forward if he then had the same email address he registered with them. He is however no longer a member so that option is not available.

Paul

Paul Report 29 Sep 2021 14:44

Thanks for your concern - Cyril is my Uncle and I do have a postal address so I guess I'll have to write.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2021 16:24

Charles Roberts
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Charles Roberts
Age in 1911: 1/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hulme
Civil Parish: South Manchester
Country: England
Street Address: 87 Booth St Hulme Manchester
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration District: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 23878
Household Members:
Name Age
George Roberts 27
Marie Roberts 26
Beatrice Roberts 4
Cecil Roberts 3
George Roberts 1
Charles Roberts 1/12

Paul

Paul Report 5 Oct 2021 05:10

Thank you ArgyllGran for posting this.
I am not able to find George Roberts of 28 Chatham St, Edgeley, Stockport
on the 1939 Register.
Suggestions anyone please?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Oct 2021 06:22

Paul

Not all entries are open .

If the death hasn’t been picked up at the last update they did then an entry will still be closed


Depending on his age if he had joined up for the war then he wouldn’t show anyway

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Oct 2021 09:22

Paul, which George do you mean - assuming you mean one of the Georges in the 1911 family?
Father or son?

This looks like the son, with wife Edna, probably brother Dennis, and one closed record:


George H Roberts [ George A Roberts on image ]
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: George H Roberts [George A Roberts]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1909
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 69. Cheadle Rd
Residence Place: Cheadle and Gatley, Cheshire, England
Occupation: Builders Labourer & Driver Heavy Work
Line Number: 7
Schedule Number: 2
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: LEMG
Borough: Cheadle and Gatley
Registration district: 443 B/3
Household Members Age
Edna Roberts 21 - 27 Nov 1918
Dennis Roberts 19 - 24 Aug 1920
This record is officially closed.
George H Roberts 30


Marriages Jun 1937 (>99%)
Birchenough Edna Roberts Stockport 8a 151
ROBERTS George A Birchenough Stockport 8a 151


Edna's surname changed to Willing by 1951, according to the 1939 Register.

?? (although no middle name in other records)

Marriages Dec 1942 (>99%)
Richards Edna V Willing Solihull 6d 2100
Willing Leonard F Richards Solihull 6d 2100


Births Dec 1918 (>99%)
Birchenough Edna Evans Stockport 8a 127


??
George Alexander Roberts
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: George Alexander Roberts
Death Age: 79
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1908
Registration Date: Nov 1988
Registration District: Leigh
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Volume: 39
Page: 2140

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Oct 2021 09:39

Ah, I see it's the father George who was at 28 Chatham Street:

George Roberts
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: George Roberts
Death Date: 5 Mar 1950
Death Place: Cheshire, England
Probate Date: 24 Apr 1950
Probate Registry: London, England

ROBERTS, George of 28 Chatham Street, Edgeley, Stockport, Cheshire died 5 March 1950. Probate London 24 April to Jessie Jones (wife of Arthur Jones). Effects £1091 2s 3d.



George Roberts
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: George Roberts
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1882
Registration Date: Jan 1950[Feb 1950] [Mar 1950]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Stockport
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 641

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Oct 2021 09:51

There's this George Roberts of about the right age in Chatham Street in 1939 - but not number 28, and with a different wife from the one on 1911.
Also a wildly different occupation. George senior in 1911 was a brakesman - though in 1939 it does say "Former heavy worker".

A man called Harold Starkie lives at no 28 in 1939 - nobody called Roberts.
{EDIT - No, my mistake - Harold is in Fox Street.}

George Roberts
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: George Roberts
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 22 Dec 1884
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 96 Chatham. St.
Residence Place: Stockport, Cheshire, England
Occupation: Fur Hatter Former Heavy Worker
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 194
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: LCJH
Borough: Stockport
Registration district: 443-2
Inferred Spouse:
Elizabeth Roberts
Inferred Children:
George Roberts
Willie Roberts
Harold Roberts
Household Members Age
George Roberts 55
Elizabeth Roberts 50
George Roberts 21
Willie Roberts 19
Harold Roberts 17



George Roberts
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: George Roberts
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Stockport
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 42
Records on Page:
Name
Elizabeth Collier
George Roberts

Paul

Paul Report 5 Oct 2021 19:08

Harold
Starkie
1917
28 Fox Street, Stockport
Stockport C.B.
Cheshire
England
Harold Starkie was at 28 Fox Street not 28 Chatham Street.
The entry for 28 Chatham Street if there is one has not been transcribed
to the best of my knowledge.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Oct 2021 21:36

?????????????????

Paul

Paul Report 7 Oct 2021 03:42

SR District/Reg Area - Dublin South
Marriage of GEORGE ROBERTS and MARY HUDSON
on 28 October 1904
Party 1 Name GEORGE ROBERTS
Party 2 Name MARY HUDSON
Date of Event 28 October 1904
Group Registration ID 2009383
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
Image

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2021 09:03

There are no open records for 28 Chatham Street in 1939 on FMP

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Oct 2021 10:26

Yes, sorry - my mistake re Harold Starkie.

Paul

Paul Report 13 Nov 2021 00:28

Edna V Willing (Richards) 11 Nov 1906
Edna V Willing in Solihull has DOB 11/11/1906

Edna V Willing (Richards) in 1939
1939 Register
137 Flat 1 Soho Road, Birmingham, Birmingham C.B., Warwickshire, England
1939 register badge
Household members (3 people)
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
George B Richards 26 May 1897 Male Electrical Engineer (Professional) Director And Manager Married 19 1
Edna V Willing (Richards) 11 Nov 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 19 2


Edna Birchenough/Roberts/Willing has DOB 27 Jan 1918
Stockport, Cheshire, England

Only one marriage comes up for Edna Roberts m. Willing
and is in 1977 - a bit late in the show.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Nov 2021 10:27

What is the point you are trying to make, please?

The woman on the 1939 you have posted was named RICHARDS at the time and subsequently married a man named Willing

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Nov 2021 11:36

Marriages Dec 1932 (>99%)
Richards George B Whereat Birmingham 6d 1075
Whereat Edna V Richards Birmingham 6d 1075

Marriages Dec 1942 (>99%)
Richards Edna V Willing Solihull 6d 2100
Willing Leonard F Richards Solihull 6d 2100

1911 Census For England & Wales
288 Victoria Road Aston Manor, Aston Manor, Warwickshire, England

Robert Minshall Whereat Head Married Male 45 1866 Advertising contractor Wiston S Mare Somerset
Charlisena Whereat Wife Married Female 43 1868 - Bridgwater Somerset
Lilian Whereat Daughter Single Female 19 1892 Commercial clerk Bristol Glo
Dorothy Lydia Whereat Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Commercial clerk Aston Co of Warck
Ivy Hilda Whereat Daughter - Female 14 1897 - Aston Co of Warck
Robert Victor Whereat Son - Male 8 1903 - Aston Co of Warck
Edna Victoria Whereat Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Aston Co of Warck

EDITED

I see that you have already been given the info about the 1942 marriage, although it was tied to the wrong Edna as the one you're looking into didn't have a second name and was twelve years younger. 'Yours' was never called Richards, either

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Nov 2021 11:59

WILLING, EDNA 1918
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/1996 in SHEPWAY (5731A) Reg SSA7 Entry Number 246
Maiden name and birthplace should be on the cert

ROBERTS, GEORGE ALEXANDER 1908
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/1988 in LEIGH (0171) Volume 39 Page 2140
FMP has his DoB as 18/12/1908
1939 says 19/12/1909

Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
ROBERTS George Alexander Chorlton 8c 886