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Eleni

Eleni Report 17 Jun 2024 02:06

I am trying to find my fathers dad Henry W Howe. He married Daisy ethel stanley 1945 , Lambeth, they were not together long, my dad does not remember him. I would like to find my dads side of the family

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jun 2024 06:05

Get the marriage certificate for his age and fathers age and start from there

The cert will show his second Christian name too


Marriages Mar 1945
Howe Henry W Stanley Lambeth 1d 243
Stanley Daisy E Howe Lambeth 1d 243

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jun 2024 06:10

Possibly

Name Henry Walter Howe
Electoral Date 1937
Ward or Division/Constituency Lambeth
County or Borough Lambeth, England
address 14 Goda street

Which means he was 21 or over in 1937


With a Benjamin Arthur Howe. John Jerome Howe ,rose Amelia Howe

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jun 2024 06:14

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Name Henry Walter Howe
Death Age 56
Birth Date 13 May 1912
Registration Date Apr 1969
[May 1969]
[Jun 1969]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration district Lambeth
Inferred County Greater London
Volume 5d
Page 107

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jun 2024 06:17

ViewEngland & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995

Name Henry Walter Howe
Death Date 28 Feb 1969
Death Place London
Probate Date 11 Jul 1969
Probate Registry London

Of 185 coronation buildings Lambeth died 28 feb 1969

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jun 2024 06:18

So get the marriage cert to see if any family names match

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jun 2024 06:20

Same address in 1939

1939 Register
14 Goda Street, Vauxhall, Lambeth, Lambeth, London, England

Household members (5 people)

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Benjamin Howe 25 Aug 1909 Male Window Cleaner Married 256 1
Rose A Howe 01 Mar 1912 Female Dressmaker Married 256 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
Henry W Howe 11 May 1912 Male Laundry Hand Single 256 4
Rose G Howe 04 Jun 1920 Female Pastry Cook Single 256 5

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jun 2024 06:22

First name(s) Henry W
Country England
Last name Howe
Volume 1D
Birth registration year 1912
Page 576
Registration quarter 2
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Cain
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Lambeth
Subcategory Civil Births
County London

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Jun 2024 06:26

1921 Census Of England & Wales
21, Hutton Road, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
John Jerome Howe Head Male 1883 38 London, Surrey, England General Labourer Lambeth Boro Council
Maria Howe Wife Female 1887 34 London, Surrey, England - -
John Jerome Howe Son Male 1906 15 London, Surrey, England Errand Boy Johnson & Sons, Tailor
Nancy Maria Howe Daughter Female 1907 14 London, Surrey, England - -
Benjamin Howe Son Male 1909 11 London, Surrey, England - -
Albert Howe Son Male 1914 6 London, Surrey, England - -
Florance Howe Daughter Female 1918 3 London, Surrey, England - -
Rose Howe Daughter Female 1920 1 London, Surrey, England - -
William John Howe Brother Male 1881 40 London, Surrey, England Casual Labourer P L A Victoria Docks, Out Of Work
Joseph Whitlock Boarder Male 1871 50 London, London, England Carman F W Swinridge, Carman & Contractor

So looks like Benjamin was a brother !


Marriages Dec 1905
Cain Maria Lambeth 1d 698
HOWE John Jerome Lambeth 1d 698

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2024 09:20

Welcome to the boards, Eleni.

As Shirley says, Henry's marriage cert should be the starting point, for Henry's age and his father's name.

Order it from the GRO website.
https://www.gro.gov.uk

You'll have to register with the site and log on, then click on "Place an Order", and follow the instructions, entering the details exactly as posted by Shirley at 06:05.

In case you're new to this (though I see you've been a GR member for a couple of years)-
1d is the volume number, and 243 is the page number.

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jun 2024 10:49

In 1921, it appears that Henry is at the Darenth Training Colony in Kent…….recorded as H W, Howe- birthplace not known

Lots of info about the colony if you google

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 17 Jun 2024 11:18

There is also a little on the Coronation Buildings on line. Possibly not the greatest place to live.

Eleni

Eleni Report 18 Jun 2024 13:25

Thank you all for your help , can you advise on how i get the marriage certificate?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Jun 2024 13:32

See the advice posted at 09.20 yesterday

Eleni

Eleni Report 27 Jun 2024 23:21

I am so confused with all the numbers after the names I really have no clue how to gather information ??

Eleni

Eleni Report 27 Jun 2024 23:23

Marriages Mar 1945
Howe Henry W Stanley Lambeth 1d 243
Stanley Daisy E Howe Lambeth 1d 243
This is 100% correct information but fining family related to them is difficult

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jun 2024 00:08

As explained earlier, if you order a copy of the marriage certificate, it will tell you Henry's father's name (if Henry knew it).

You say, "I am so confused with all the numbers after the names".

If you mean the numbers after the names on the marriage record - as already explained, 1d is the volume number, and 243 is the page number.

If you follow the instructions about how to order the marriage cert (see my post on 17 June at 09:20), the GRO website will show you where you need to enter those numbers on your application.


"I really have no clue how to gather information " -
On 17 June at 06:22, Shirley posted Henry's 1912 birth record.
You can order a copy of the actual birth certificate on the GRO website.

If you want his death cert, here are the details to quote in an order for it on GRO:

Deaths Jun 1969
HOWE Henry Walter [DOB 13My1912] Lambeth 5d 107

You mention wanting to find family related to Henry and Daisy.
On 17 June at 06:26, Shirley posted the 1921 Census record for his parents and siblings, also an uncle.

At 06:20 on 17 June, Shirley posted the 1939 Register entry showing Henry with his sister Rose Grace Elizabeth Howe, his brother Benjamin Arthur Charles Howe, Benjamin's wife Rose Amelia (nee James), and one other person who was probably Benjamin and Rose's son Benjamin J Howe, who was born in 1938.

You'll find that birth on FreeBMD.
Experiment with that site - it's free.


Benjamin and Rose married in 1936, in Lewisham:

Marriages Sep 1936
Howe Benjamin A C James Lewisham 1d 3020
James Rose A Howe Lewisham 1d 3020

You'll find that on FreeBMD. https://www.freebmd.org.uk

Are there particular family members whom you want to find?



Eleni

Eleni Report 28 Jun 2024 01:51

Yes my grandfather's family, I am sure he went on to re marry and had children..so my farther with have relatives

Eleni

Eleni Report 28 Jun 2024 01:57

He was told that his father left before he was born.. my dad has never know amy of his das or mother's family.. I would love him to find a relative

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 Jun 2024 08:46

A marriage certificate will give the names of both fathers, a birth certificate will give the names of both parents.

You were given some information about possible family. You can use the free bmd website to see if Benjamin & Rose had any other children and then see if those children married and had their own.
You can also use that site to see if the sister Rose also married.