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You won’t be able to access the grant/will straight after ordering it. You will get an email confirming your order but this will not mean that your copy is ready to be downloaded.

You will get an email when it is ready to download. You will then be able to log in to the system and go to “My Wills” and save each available item to your computer. After you have logged in, the copy will be available for 31 days, so make sure that you save it before then."
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i have ordered the will as suggested, does it take time for it to be emailed to me?

Thank you all.. I am still learning how this all works

The closed record in 1939 is almost certainly the son of Benjamin and Rose,,,,,,,,also named Benjamin

Benjamin A C Howe died in 1967

Rose Grace Elizabeth Howe married Roberson

She died in 2005

One child of the marriage…..see freebmd

He’s on the ER to 2018

You said you knew nothing about your grandmothers family either . This is them in 1939 ( use all the freebmd adive to follow the lives of the siblings)
Daisy E Stanley
Gender Female
Marital Status Single
Birth Date 15 Oct 1918
Residence Date 1939
Address 38. Thessaly Rd.
Residence Place Lambeth, London, England
Occupation Factory Hand Food
Line Number 12
Schedule Number 241
Sub Schedule Number 4
Enumeration District Anej
Borough Lambeth
Registration district 22/3
Inferred Father Thomas A Stanley
Inferred Mother Violet I Stanley
Household members
Name Gender
Thomas A Stanley Male
Violet I Stanley Female
Florence A Stanley Female
Daisy E Stanley Female
George R Stanley Male


Florence is 5 years older and amrried a Barrett and George is 4 years younger. Thoas bond 1881 is a house decorator. Violet was born in 1886

Added. There is a tree on Ancestry by a descendant of Thomas via his first wife.

In 1947, Henry and Daisy were living at 34 Fitzalan Street.

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EDIT:
Henry seems to be listed twice in 1947 - once with Daisy at 34 Fitzalan Street, and again with Rose A Howe (presumably his sister-in-law) at 16 Kempsford Road.

In 1949 he's at 16 Kempsford Road with Benjamin & Rose A, and also Rose (presumably his sister).
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Henry was probably at 75 Fitzalan Street in 1954.
He may or may not be with a Sarah F Evans - she may be in a different flat at the same address, and nothing to do with Henry.

Henry W Howe
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name Henry W Howe
Electoral Date 1954
Street Address 75 (Ana [ Fitzalan Street on image ]
Ward or Division/Constituency Lambeth
County or Borough Lambeth, England


This MIGHT be Henry in 1963 - and at the same address in 1964. He doesn't appear to be with a partner.

Henry W Howe
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name Henry W Howe
Electoral Date 1963
Street Address 21 Y-Shaw, Robert [ 21 Renfrew Road on image ]
Ward or Division/Constituency Vauxhall
County or Borough Lambeth, England
Reference Number LCC/PER/B/2939

ADDED:
But that might not be Henry Walter in 1963.
In 1956 that man is at the same address, with a Harry Howe.
Whoever Harry Howe is, he's at the same address in 1955 and 1959 - but not with Henry W.

I don't see a later marriage for Henry Walter Howe.

I don't think this is him:

Marriages Mar 1953
HOWE Henry W SMITH Colchester 4a 1225
SMITH Pamela I HOW Colchester 4a 1225

I think that's probably Henry WILLIAM Howe, who died in Essex in 1992.
Pamela Iris Howe died in Essex in 2021.

It's possible that your grandfather may have lived with a new partner without marrying her, if he and Daisy hadn't divorced. Do you know if they did?

Ah, so you are looking for information after 1945.

As shown above, your grandfather died in 1969, so there are only 24 years to account for.

His death cert might be helpful , depending on who the informant was.
His probate record shows that he had been living at 185 Coronation Buildings, Lambeth - so he hadn't moved far.

To see who the beneficiaries of his Will were, you can buy a copy of it here - https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

Enter the details as given in the probate record posted by Shirley on 17 June at 06:17.
You will see two pages of "Image Search Results".
Click on the image (tiny) of the first page.
Now you'll see an order from on the right side of the screen.
Fill that in with the same details (which you'll also see on page 1 of the search results ).
Click "Add to basket".
At the very top of the next page, in tiny print, you'll see "My basket (1)".
Click on that, and follow the ordering and payment instructions.
You'll be prompted to "create account" with the Gov.UK site, or to sign in if you already have an account.
It's free to register, and only £1.50 for a copy of the Will.

You'll receive an email with a link to the Will, which you can view online for 31 days. If you want to keep it longer, make sure you save it to your computer.


Henry and Daisy had one son, John, who I assume is your father.

A marriage certificate will give the names of both fathers, a birth certificate will give the names of both parents.

You were given some information about possible family. You can use the free bmd website to see if Benjamin & Rose had any other children and then see if those children married and had their own.
You can also use that site to see if the sister Rose also married.

He was told that his father left before he was born.. my dad has never know amy of his das or mother's family.. I would love him to find a relative

Yes my grandfather's family, I am sure he went on to re marry and had children..so my farther with have relatives

As explained earlier, if you order a copy of the marriage certificate, it will tell you Henry's father's name (if Henry knew it).

You say, "I am so confused with all the numbers after the names".

If you mean the numbers after the names on the marriage record - as already explained, 1d is the volume number, and 243 is the page number.

If you follow the instructions about how to order the marriage cert (see my post on 17 June at 09:20), the GRO website will show you where you need to enter those numbers on your application.


"I really have no clue how to gather information " -
On 17 June at 06:22, Shirley posted Henry's 1912 birth record.
You can order a copy of the actual birth certificate on the GRO website.

If you want his death cert, here are the details to quote in an order for it on GRO:

Deaths Jun 1969
HOWE Henry Walter [DOB 13My1912] Lambeth 5d 107

You mention wanting to find family related to Henry and Daisy.
On 17 June at 06:26, Shirley posted the 1921 Census record for his parents and siblings, also an uncle.

At 06:20 on 17 June, Shirley posted the 1939 Register entry showing Henry with his sister Rose Grace Elizabeth Howe, his brother Benjamin Arthur Charles Howe, Benjamin's wife Rose Amelia (nee James), and one other person who was probably Benjamin and Rose's son Benjamin J Howe, who was born in 1938.

You'll find that birth on FreeBMD.
Experiment with that site - it's free.


Benjamin and Rose married in 1936, in Lewisham:

Marriages Sep 1936
Howe Benjamin A C James Lewisham 1d 3020
James Rose A Howe Lewisham 1d 3020

You'll find that on FreeBMD. https://www.freebmd.org.uk

Are there particular family members whom you want to find?

Marriages Mar 1945
Howe Henry W Stanley Lambeth 1d 243
Stanley Daisy E Howe Lambeth 1d 243
This is 100% correct information but fining family related to them is difficult

I am so confused with all the numbers after the names I really have no clue how to gather information ??

See the advice posted at 09.20 yesterday

Thank you all for your help , can you advise on how i get the marriage certificate?

There is also a little on the Coronation Buildings on line. Possibly not the greatest place to live.