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ArgyllGran
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26 Feb 2023 00:04 |
Just for interest:
Allice Williams in the 1841 England Census Name: Allice Williams Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Female Where born: Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Erth Hundred: Penwith County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Penzance Sub-registration district: Uny Lelant Neighbors: Piece: 144 Book: 1 Folio: 55 Page number: 9 Household Members (Name) Age Elizabeth Williams 65 Allice Williams 30 John Williams 25
Alice Williams Vital • England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name Alice Williams Sex Female Christening Date 14 Dec 1806 Christening Place St Erth, Cornwall, England, United Kingdom Christening Place (Original) Saint Erth, Cornwall, England Father's Name James Williams Father's Sex Male Mother's Name Elizth. Mother's Sex Female Event Type Christening
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SylviaInCanada
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25 Feb 2023 20:40 |
???????
TIPPET, ALICE 36 GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in PENZANCE UNION Volume 09 Page 189
but I also wonder about this one, though the baby died in a different Workhouse ......
TIPPET, - 0 GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in TRURO UNION Volume 09 Page 244
NO .........mmn was Barkla, so not Alice and John's child
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Phillip
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25 Feb 2023 16:32 |
Of course.
Many thanks to ArgyllGran and ErikaH.
Great stuff.
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ErikaH
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25 Feb 2023 12:27 |
No guarantees............you need certs for accuracy
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Phillip
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25 Feb 2023 12:13 |
This is magnificent!!! Thank you so much - Caught out by Tippeth!!!
Very bad to get caught out by Mary Ann/Ann.....
Another member going abroad!! This does fascinate me.
Is that Alice's death? 38 days after marrying???
Really do appreciate the time and effort you have put in.
Thank you
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ErikaH
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25 Feb 2023 11:29 |
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Day Month 15-Oct Year 1842 Parish Circuit Or Chapel Erth, St. Groom Fn John Groom Sn TIPPET Groom Age Full Groom Residence St. Erth Groom Condition B Groom Rank Profession Labourer Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) S Groom Father Name John Groom Father Rank Profession Labourer Bride Fn Alice Bride Sn WILLIAMS Bride Age Full Bride Residence Bride Condition S Bride Rank Profession Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) M Bride Father Name James Bride Father Rank Profession Miner Banns / Licence (B/L) B Witness Fn1 John Witness Sn1 Tippet Witness Fn2 Samuel Witness Sn2 Trevaskis
????????? Day Month 22-Nov Year 1842 Parish Circuit Or Chapel Breage Forename Alice Surname TIPPETT Age 36 Residence St Erth
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ErikaH
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25 Feb 2023 11:20 |
He is not listed in 1841 in St Erth
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ErikaH
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25 Feb 2023 11:07 |
For INFO
Day Month 01-Nov Year 1845 Parish Circuit Or Chapel Erth, St. Groom Fn John Groom Sn TIPPETT Groom Age Above 21 Groom Residence St. Erth Groom Condition Widower Groom Rank Profession Labourer Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) S Groom Father Name John Groom Father Rank Profession Labourer Bride Fn Mary Ann Bride Sn JOHNS Bride Age Above 21 Bride Residence St. Erth Bride Condition S Bride Rank Profession Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) M Bride Father Name William Bride Father Rank Profession Labourer Banns / Licence (B/L) B Witness Fn1 William Witness Sn1 Simons (mark) Witness Fn2 William Witness Sn2 Chate
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ArgyllGran
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25 Feb 2023 10:40 |
In your OP, you mention Mary Jane 1852 and Jane 1853.
That's just one child. She's called Mary Jane in the 1861 census, and Jane in 1871.
You already know about her marriage in 1874:
Mary Jane Tippett in the Cornwall, England, Parish Registers, 1538-2010 Name: Mary Jane Tippett Gender: Female Marriage Age: 22 Marital Status: Single Event Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1852 Marriage Date: 26 Dec 1874 Marriage Place: St Erth, Cornwall, England Father: John Tippett Spouse: Thomas Henry Hampton
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ArgyllGran
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25 Feb 2023 10:30 |
Angelina's husband's grave:
Thomas Polkinghorne in the U.S., Find a Grave™ Index, 1600s-Current Name: Thomas Polkinghorne Birth Date: 1846 Death Date: 1890 Cemetery: Christ Church Cemetery and Mausoleum Burial or Cremation Place: Belleville, Essex County, New Jersey, United States of America
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ArgyllGran
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25 Feb 2023 10:24 |
The family in 1895:
Edith Polkinghorn in the New Jersey, U.S., State Census, 1895 Name: Edith Polkinghorn Race: White Gender: Female State: New Jersey County: Essex Locality: Belleville Family Number: 128 Roll: V227_64 Page: 20 Line: 17
Listed with Angelina, Thomas (the son), William, and George.
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25 Feb 2023 10:19 |
Angelina Polingha* in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Angelina Polingha* [Angelina Polinghine] [Angelina Polkinghorn] Age: 73 Birth Year: abt 1847 Birthplace: England Home in 1920: Belleville Ward 1, Essex, New Jersey Street: Stevens St House Number: 13 Residence Date: 1920 Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1873 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Widowed Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Native Tongue: English Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: None Home Owned or Rented: Rented Naturalization Status: Naturalized Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Angelina Polingha* 73 Head Thomas Polingha* 43 Son William Polingha* 40 Son Edith Polingha* 33 Daughter Joseph G Polingha* 45 Cousin
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25 Feb 2023 10:18 |
Angelina Polkinghorn in the New Jersey, U.S., State Census, 1905 Name: Angelina Polkinghorn Gender: Female Age: 59 Marital Status: Widow Birth Date: Jul 1846 Birth Place: England Residence Year: 1905 Residence Place: Belleville, Essex, New Jersey, USA Page number: 73 Ward: Belleville Line Number: 86 Street Address: Steven House Number: 26 Dwelling Number: 779 Family Number: 1 Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England Occupation: Clerk Can Read: Y Can Write: Y Can Speak English: Y Owned or Rented: R Farm or House: H Relatives (Name) Age Angelina Polkinghorn 59 Thomas Polkinghorn 29 - New Jersey William Polkinghorn 27 - New Jersey Edith Polkinghorn 19 - New Jersey George Polkinghorn 16 - New Jersey
??? Angelina Polkinghorne in the U.S., Find a Grave™ Index, 1600s-Current Name: Angelina Polkinghorne Birth Date: 1846 Death Date: 1925 Cemetery: Christ Church Cemetery and Mausoleum Burial or Cremation Place: Belleville, Essex County, New Jersey, United States of America
Gravesite Details Wife of Thomas Polkinghorne
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ArgyllGran
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25 Feb 2023 10:00 |
Elizabeth Jane Polkinghorn in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 Name: Elizabeth Jane Polkinghorn Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Age: 3/12 [ 3 on the image - no suggestion of months, therefore 3 years ] Birth Date: abt 1882 Place of Origin: England Departure Port: Avonmouth, England Destination: USA Arrival Date: 20 May 1882 Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA Ship Name: Bristol
Travelling with Thomas ,34, miner; Angelina 35; Thomas 5; William J 3.
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25 Feb 2023 09:30 |
Angelina Polkinghorne in the 1881 England Census Name: Angelina Polkinghorne Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Thomas Polkinghorne Gender: Female Where born: St Erth, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: St Erth County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Little Mill Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration District: Penzance ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: Piece: 2340 Folio: 42 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Polkinghorne 33 - St Erth, labourer on quays Angelina Polkinghorne 34 Thomas Polkinghorne 4 - Canada Elizabeth J. Polkinghorne 3 - Canada William J. Polkinghorne 2 - Canada
All the children said to be born in Canada. [Later records below say New Jersey.]
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ArgyllGran
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25 Feb 2023 09:26 |
Ancelina's marriage:
Angelina Tippeth in the Cornwall, England, Parish Registers, 1538-2010 Name: Angelina Tippeth Gender: Female Marriage Age: 25 Marital Status: Single Event Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1848 Marriage Date: 25 Jan 1873 Marriage Place: St Erth, Cornwall, England Father: John Tippeth [ miner] Spouse: Thomas Polkinghorne
Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%) POLKINGHORNE Thomas Penzance 5c 401 TIPPETT Angelina Penzance 5c 401
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ErikaH
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25 Feb 2023 09:18 |
Possible baptism in Probus for JOHN 10 July 1814 father John, mother, Mary
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ArgyllGran
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25 Feb 2023 09:12 |
Posting censuses for our reference, as it's often easier to get one's head round all the names like that:
John Tippett in the 1851 England Census Name: John Tippett Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maryann Tippett Gender: Male Where born: Probus Civil Parish: St Erth Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Penzance Sub-registration District: Uny Lelant ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 66 Piece: 1917 Folio: 70 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age John Tippett 35 - farm labourer Maryann Tippett 30 Ann T Tippett 4 William Johns 28 Thomas Johns 29
John Tippet in the 1861 England Census Name: John Tippet Gender: Male Age: 45 Relation: Head Estimated Birth Year: 1816 Where born: Probus, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Erth County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Penzance Sub-registration district: Uny Lelant ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 69 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John Tippet 45 Head - miner, tin Mary Ann Tippet 41 Wife Ancelina Tippet 14 Daughter Mary Jane Tippet 9 Daughter John Tippet 7 Son Anne Tippet 2 Daughter James Tippet 2/12 Son
John Tippett in the 1871 England Census Name: John Tippett Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: 1815 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Probus, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Erth Town: Church County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Penzance Sub-registration district: Uny Lelant ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 71 Piece: 2332 Folio: 19 Page number: 14 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John Tippett 56 Head - tin miner Mary Tippett 50 Wife John Tippett 17 Son Selina Tippett 24 Daughter Jane Tippett 18 Daughter Annie Tippett 12 Daughter Mary Tippett 2/12 Daughter
By 1881 the only "child" with John and Mary Ann is married daughter Annie Johns.
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ErikaH
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25 Feb 2023 09:09 |
Have you looked for him in 1841?
What was his occupation when he married?
The 1851 census records him as a Farm Labourer
What was his address when he married?
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SylviaInCanada
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25 Feb 2023 00:44 |
I thought it looked like a long gap between Ancelina and Mary Jane.
This is from FreeReg, and does look like your family
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/new?locale=en&search_id=63f95868c233302e6820ca93
County Cornwall Place (Links to more information) St Erth Church name (Links to more information) St Ercus Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register Register entry number 890 Birth date 27 Jul 1850 Baptism date 15 Sep 1850 Person forename John Person sex M Father forename John Mother forename Mary Ann Father surname TIPPETT Mother surname TIPPETT Person abode Bosence Father occupation Labourer Transcribed by Barty File line number 890
Unfortunately, he didn't live long ..............
County Cornwall Place (Links to more information) St Erth Church name (Links to more information) St Ercus Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register Register entry number 1218 Burial date 07 Mar 1851 Burial person forename John Burial person surname TIPPETT Person age infant Burial person abode Besence Transcribed by Bernard White File line number 1217
But then ................
County Cornwall Place (Links to more information) St Erth Church name (Links to more information) St Ercus Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register Register entry number 1086 Birth date 25 Feb 1853 Baptism date 20 Nov 1853 Person forename John Person sex M Father forename John Mother forename Mary Ann Father surname TIPPETT Mother surname TIPPETT Person abode Bidderverant Father occupation Miner Transcribed by Barty File line number 1086
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