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ErikaH
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23 Dec 2022 11:48 |
1921 Census Of England & Wales 70 Blackwall Buildings, Whitechapel, London & Middlesex, England
C Toogood Head Male 1863 58 Brompton, London, England Dock Labourer Hays Cotton Whalf Tooley St Annie Toogood Wife Female 1872 49 Hackney Wick, London, England Chair Woman Out Of Work Nelly Toogood Daughter Female 1904 17 Hackney Wick, London, England Wainters Finsucy S U Jare L Toogood Daughter Female 1906 15 Old Ford, London, England Finsucy S U Jare -
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ErikaH
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23 Dec 2022 11:53 |
1939 Register 177 Fulham Court,Fulham Road, Fulham, Hammersmith And Fulham, Fulham, London, England
Walter L Bonner 19 Jun 1903 Male Gang Messenger Married 180 1 Annie L Bonner 14 Sep 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 180 2
Birth year for the woman is wrong.................
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ArgyllGran
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23 Dec 2022 12:16 |
I think we're talking about two different Charleses.
The father of the man who married Annie was an engineer in 1897. The 1897 marriage cert doesn't say he was deceased - though of course that doesn't mean he wasn't.
The father of the man who married Marian was a cheesemonger in 1866 and 1871. In 1881 he was a grocer's carman. His wife Catherine was a widow by 1911, living with her sister Mary Cooper. In 1901 she may be listed as Ellen Cooper, widow, born "Surrey Borough", a visitor to the Meinert family in Bermondsey. I can't see her in 1891.
Possible death of Edward??
Edward Towgood in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Edward Towgood Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: Kensington, London, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1882 Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom Volume: 1a Page: 61
Edward Towgood in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014 Name: Edward Towgood Register Type: Burial Death Date: abt 1882 Burial or Cremation Date: 1882 Burial or Cremation Place: Kensington and Chelsea, London, England
If that's the case, then he can't have been an engineer in 1897 - unless Charles lied and promoted his father from carman to engineer.
ADDED: Re the possible 1882 death of Edward - on Charles's 1886 marriage cert Edward is a carman - and not said to be deceased, though of course that doesn't mean anything one way or the other.
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ErikaH
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23 Dec 2022 12:21 |
The man who married in 1897 claimed to be a bachelor.....................
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ArgyllGran
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23 Dec 2022 12:24 |
Yes, thanks for useful reminder, ErikaH .
Of course he could have been lying there too. But I feel pretty sure he's a different man.
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ErikaH
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23 Dec 2022 12:27 |
The only possible 'link' is his being a Dock Labourer on all censuses after the 1886 marriage and on the Workhouse records
All somewhat 'iffy'.....................
It would be helpful to hear from Craig how he worked back to this man............
EDITED
The Probate address is the same the 1921 census.................
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Craig
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24 Dec 2022 03:55 |
Hi All Thank you so much for all that data, yes I should of mentioned that Catherine Ellen Cooper was married. Also I should of mentioned that descendants did end up in Canada, who I am in contact with. I can now tell them that the their line connects with mine. I already have ancesters from little old New Zealand that went to California then on to Canada my 2nd great Uncle, my gg grandfathers second oldest son. It's now 16:53 xmas eve so I had better sign off. Once again thanks a heap and have a MERRY XMAS to all.
Craig NZ
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Craig
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24 Dec 2022 03:55 |
Hi All Thank you so much for all that data, yes I should of mentioned that Catherine Ellen Cooper was married. Also I should of mentioned that descendants did end up in Canada, who I am in contact with. I can now tell them that the their line connects with mine. I already have ancesters from little old New Zealand that went to California then on to Canada my 2nd great Uncle, my gg grandfathers second oldest son. It's now 16:53 xmas eve so I had better sign off. Once again thanks a heap and have a MERRY XMAS to all.
Craig NZ
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Craig
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24 Dec 2022 03:55 |
Hi All Thank you so much for all that data, yes I should of mentioned that Catherine Ellen Cooper was married. Also I should of mentioned that descendants did end up in Canada, who I am in contact with. I can now tell them that the their line connects with mine. I already have ancesters from little old New Zealand that went to California then on to Canada my 2nd great Uncle, my gg grandfathers second oldest son. It's now 16:53 xmas eve so I had better sign off. Once again thanks a heap and have a MERRY XMAS to all.
Craig NZ
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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24 Dec 2022 18:29 |
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http://britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/82303
http://britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/82304
http://britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/82305
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ArgyllGran
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24 Dec 2022 19:24 |
Those records are correct, Shirley - good find. The history of Home Children Canada is interesting: https://www.britishhomechildren.com/
Charles and George's travel records were posted yesterday.
Here's Elizabeth's:
Eliz Twogood in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: Eliz Twogood Gender: Female Departure Age: 3 Birth Date: abt 1893 Departure Date: 26 Mar 1896 Departure Port: England Ship Name: Parisian Shipping Line: Allan Line Destination Port: Halifax, Canada Master: Reg Barrett
Eliz Twogood in the Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Eliz Twogood Gender: Female Arrival Age: 3 Birth Year: abt 1893 Departure Port: Liverpool, England Arrival Date: 5 Apr 1896 Arrival Port: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Portland, Maine, USA Vessel: Parisian
I suppose their father must have felt unable to cope with three young children after their mother Marian's death.
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Craig
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27 Dec 2022 03:15 |
I am replying again as I did reply but can not see it to all the help given, thank you so much it has been a great help. Xmas gone so happy new year instead.
Craig NZ
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Craig
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27 Dec 2022 03:15 |
I am replying again as I did reply but can not see it to all the help given, thank you so much it has been a great help. Xmas gone so happy new year instead.
Craig NZ
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27 Dec 2022 03:40 |
Hi all again these messages from me are a bit screwed up. I had the Canadian information and all i needed was the link from Charles Towgood 1866-1931 to Edward Towgood 1831-1882. The data from the Canadian side did not match up, but you have all given me all the answers and I am forever in you debt. We all descend from 2 brothers John Davie Towgood 1697-1745 Michaiah Towgood 1700-1792 both of Axminster, Devon, England.
Craig NZ
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Dec 2022 06:50 |
Argyl
I am on the BHC site on Facebook as my mums elder half sister was a British Home child in 1909 before my mum was born to granddads second marriage
Aunt nell was his eldest child from his first marriage and his wife died aged 29 in 1905
I do look ups on there for BHC descendants looking for U.K. family history of their own BHC
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