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I am on the BHC site on Facebook as my mums elder half sister was a British Home child in 1909 before my mum was born to granddads second marriage

Aunt nell was his eldest child from his first marriage and his wife died aged 29 in 1905

I do look ups on there for BHC descendants looking for U.K. family history of their own BHC

Hi all again these messages from me are a bit screwed up.
I had the Canadian information and all i needed was the link from Charles Towgood 1866-1931 to Edward Towgood 1831-1882.
The data from the Canadian side did not match up, but you have all given me all the answers and I am forever in you debt.
We all descend from 2 brothers John Davie Towgood 1697-1745 Michaiah Towgood 1700-1792 both of Axminster, Devon, England.

Craig NZ

I am replying again as I did reply but can not see it to all the help given, thank you so much it has been a great help.
Xmas gone so happy new year instead.

Craig NZ

I am replying again as I did reply but can not see it to all the help given, thank you so much it has been a great help.
Xmas gone so happy new year instead.

Craig NZ

Those records are correct, Shirley - good find.
The history of Home Children Canada is interesting:
https://www.britishhomechildren.com/

Charles and George's travel records were posted yesterday.

Here's Elizabeth's:

Eliz Twogood
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Eliz Twogood
Gender: Female
Departure Age: 3
Birth Date: abt 1893
Departure Date: 26 Mar 1896
Departure Port: England
Ship Name: Parisian
Shipping Line: Allan Line
Destination Port: Halifax, Canada
Master: Reg Barrett


Eliz Twogood
in the Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Eliz Twogood
Gender: Female
Arrival Age: 3
Birth Year: abt 1893
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 5 Apr 1896
Arrival Port: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Portland, Maine, USA
Vessel: Parisian


I suppose their father must have felt unable to cope with three young children after their mother Marian's death.

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http://britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/82303

http://britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/82304

http://britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/82305

Hi All
Thank you so much for all that data, yes I should of mentioned that Catherine Ellen Cooper was married.
Also I should of mentioned that descendants did end up in Canada, who I am in contact with.
I can now tell them that the their line connects with mine.
I already have ancesters from little old New Zealand that went to California then on to Canada my 2nd great Uncle, my gg grandfathers second oldest son.
It's now 16:53 xmas eve so I had better sign off.
Once again thanks a heap and have a MERRY XMAS to all.

Craig NZ

Hi All
Thank you so much for all that data, yes I should of mentioned that Catherine Ellen Cooper was married.
Also I should of mentioned that descendants did end up in Canada, who I am in contact with.
I can now tell them that the their line connects with mine.
I already have ancesters from little old New Zealand that went to California then on to Canada my 2nd great Uncle, my gg grandfathers second oldest son.
It's now 16:53 xmas eve so I had better sign off.
Once again thanks a heap and have a MERRY XMAS to all.

Craig NZ

Hi All
Thank you so much for all that data, yes I should of mentioned that Catherine Ellen Cooper was married.
Also I should of mentioned that descendants did end up in Canada, who I am in contact with.
I can now tell them that the their line connects with mine.
I already have ancesters from little old New Zealand that went to California then on to Canada my 2nd great Uncle, my gg grandfathers second oldest son.
It's now 16:53 xmas eve so I had better sign off.
Once again thanks a heap and have a MERRY XMAS to all.

Craig NZ

The only possible 'link' is his being a Dock Labourer on all censuses after the 1886 marriage and on the Workhouse records

All somewhat 'iffy'.....................

It would be helpful to hear from Craig how he worked back to this man............

EDITED

The Probate address is the same the 1921 census.................

Yes, thanks for useful reminder, ErikaH .

Of course he could have been lying there too.
But I feel pretty sure he's a different man.

The man who married in 1897 claimed to be a bachelor.....................

I think we're talking about two different Charleses.

The father of the man who married Annie was an engineer in 1897.
The 1897 marriage cert doesn't say he was deceased - though of course that doesn't mean he wasn't.

The father of the man who married Marian was a cheesemonger in 1866 and 1871.
In 1881 he was a grocer's carman.
His wife Catherine was a widow by 1911, living with her sister Mary Cooper.
In 1901 she may be listed as Ellen Cooper, widow, born "Surrey Borough", a visitor to the Meinert family in Bermondsey.
I can't see her in 1891.

Possible death of Edward??

Edward Towgood
 in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edward Towgood
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Kensington, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1882
Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom
Volume: 1a
Page: 61

Edward Towgood
in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014
Name: Edward Towgood
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1882
Burial or Cremation Date: 1882
Burial or Cremation Place: Kensington and Chelsea, London, England

If that's the case, then he can't have been an engineer in 1897 - unless Charles lied and promoted his father from carman to engineer.


ADDED:
Re the possible 1882 death of Edward -
on Charles's 1886 marriage cert Edward is a carman - and not said to be deceased, though of course that doesn't mean anything one way or the other.

1939 Register
177 Fulham Court,Fulham Road, Fulham, Hammersmith And Fulham, Fulham, London, England

Walter L Bonner 19 Jun 1903 Male Gang Messenger Married 180 1
Annie L Bonner 14 Sep 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 180 2

Birth year for the woman is wrong.................

1921 Census Of England & Wales
70 Blackwall Buildings, Whitechapel, London & Middlesex, England

C Toogood Head Male 1863 58 Brompton, London, England Dock Labourer Hays Cotton Whalf Tooley St
Annie Toogood Wife Female 1872 49 Hackney Wick, London, England Chair Woman Out Of Work
Nelly Toogood Daughter Female 1904 17 Hackney Wick, London, England Wainters Finsucy S U Jare
L Toogood Daughter Female 1906 15 Old Ford, London, England Finsucy S U Jare -

The death Craig found:

Charles E Towgood
 in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Charles E Towgood
Death Age: 65
Birth Date: abt 1866
Registration Date: Jul 1931[Aug 1931] [Sep 1931] 
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Stepney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 143


Charles Towgood
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Charles Towgood
Death Date: 26 Jul 1931
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 3 Sep 1931
Probate Registry: London, England

TOWGOOD, Charles, of 70 Blackwall Buildings, Whitechapel, Middlesex, died 26 July 1931 at St Peter's Hospital, Vallance Road, Whitechapel.
Administration London 3 September to Annie Louise Bonney (wife of Walter John Bonney). Effects £174 1s 3d.

Deaths Sep 1931 (>99%)
Towgood Annie L 50 Stepney 1c 136

Charles Towgood
 in the 1911 England Census
Name: Charles Towgood
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Patient
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ompton [ Brompton on image ]
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: Mile End Infirmary, Bancroft Road, Mile End E
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Dock Labourer
Registration District Number: 21
Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town North Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 34-37
Piece: 1650

Name: Annie Louisa Towgood
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1903
Baptism Place: Hackney Wick, Hackney, England
Father: Charles Towgood
Mother: Annie Louisa Towgood
Register Type: Parish Register

TOWGOOD, ANNIE LOUISA DANIELS
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 523

Workhouse record
Name: Annie Towgood
Discharge Age: 8
Record Type: Discharge
Birth Date: abt 1902
Discharge Date: 12 Nov 1910
Discharge Place: Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London, England

Also on above record...........
TOWGOOD, ELIZA DANIELS
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 488
TOWGOOD, NELLIE ELIZABETH DANIELS
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 549

Discharged to 'Scattered Homes', where Annie is in 1911.........................

Scattered Homes Belonging To The Guardians Of The Poor Of The Hamlet Of Mile End Old Town
471 Mile End R E, Mile End Old Town, London & Middlesex, England


Marriages Mar 1921 (>99%)
Bonner Walter Towgood Bethnal G. 1c 231
Towgood Annie Bonner Bethnal G. 1c 231

In 1881, the address for Charles on his 1886 marriage cert

(Mildmay Mission House), 41, Turville Street, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England