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Samuel

Samuel Report 29 Aug 2022 14:09

Ellen Hickey married William Seymour they had a daughter born 21/06/1858 8 Back at manchester
I am looking to info on Ellen Hickeys mothers maiden name .and any information on her
I know its a tall order but here's hoping
Many Thanks
Sam

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Aug 2022 15:02

is this the daughter

Mary Ellen
Country England
Last name Seymore
Volume 8D
Birth quarter 3
Page 225
Birth year 1858
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Hickey
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Manchester
Subcategory Civil Births
County Lancashire

Mary E
City Manchester
Last name Seymore
County Lancashire
Relationship Poor orphan
Country England
Marital status -
Registration district Manchester
Sex Female
Sub district St George
Age 11
Enumeration district 9
Birth year 1860
Parliamentary borough or division Manchester
Birth town -
Municipal borough or ward St Michael
Birth county Lancashire
Archive reference RG10
Birth county as transcribed LANCASHIRE
Piece number 4048
Birth place England
Folio 42
Occupation -
Page 23
Full address St Patrick Orphanage Catholic, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Schedule 106
House name -
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Street St Patrick Orphanage Catholic
Category Census, land & surveys
Town Manchester
Subcategory Census
Parish Manchester
Collections from Great Britain, England

(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2022 15:05

Where and when was ELLEN born?
Where and when did she marry?
What was her father’s name?

Who registered the child’s birth?

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Aug 2022 15:12

As you are looking for her mothers maiden name one supposes you know her fathers name. Have you looked for their marriage in parish registers?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2022 15:15

Hickey is an IRISH name

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Aug 2022 15:24

There is a 1850 census for Manchester for an 8 year old Ellen Hickey, daughter of Thomas and Bridget. Both parents born in Ireland all the children born in Manchester.
But she is living with her parents in 1860

Samuel

Samuel Report 29 Aug 2022 15:30

Thank you all so much I was told there was Italian in the family this didn't make sense to me so I started looking .Mary Ellen Seymore is my grans mother she died when gran was one her mother was Ellen Hickey.who married William Seymore
That's where I am lost so I thought maybe Ellen Hickeys mother's maiden name could help .I agree with the Irish my great grandad Wade married Mary Ellen Seymour he was Catholic and came from Liverpool .

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Aug 2022 15:33

her marriage

Marriage: 5 Jul 1879 St Joseph, Ancoats, Lancashire, England
Joanem Wade -
Mariam Helenam Seymour -
Groom's Father: Richardi Wade
Bride's Father: Gulielmi Seymour ----------------
Witness: James Griffin; Anna McGee
Married by: Salvator Carruccio
Register: Marriages 1856 - 1885
Source: Original Register at LRO Preston

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2022 15:40

You say Ellen married Seymour - PROOF, please

You haven't answered any of the questions I posed....................they have a purpose, not just idle curiosity

Samuel

Samuel Report 29 Aug 2022 15:41

Namelessone .
What you said makes sense thank you so so very much
I new I could rely on my friends on Genes Community
You have helped me in the past.
Also all the info You have all
Sam done for me on this thread
A relative sent me Devani as Italian this turned out to be Indian maiden name
My husband suggested Devanney Irish and you proved it

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Aug 2022 15:58

Samuel

Unless you know that it is Thomas & Bridget I wouldn’t count on it. I found several more Ellen Hickeys living in Manchester and several dying in the 184O,s.

Like Erika, I haven’t found a Seymour/ Hickey marriage.

safc

safc Report 29 Aug 2022 16:33



Previous Dwelling Next Dwelling Printable Format
Details of the location of the dwelling
Census County District Civil Parish Ecclesiastical Parish Piece Enumeration District Folio Page Schedule House Number House or Street Name
1861 Lancashire (LAN) London Road Manchester St Paul 2948 23 96 5 37 83 Port St


Details of each person in the dwelling
Surname Forenames Relationship Marital Status Sex Age Occupation Birth County Birth Place Disability Notes
HICKEY Ellen Lodger U F 24 Cap Maker Lancashire Manchester
HICKEY Mary E - - F 2 Lancashire Manchester

Samuel

Samuel Report 29 Aug 2022 16:42

My grand mother's mother was born in 1858 Seymour her mother's maiden name Hickey
So I still think you are on the right road thank for keep looking

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2022 16:51

Are you going to tell us why you think Ellen Hickey ever married?

Have you done anything about looking for a record of the alleged marriage?

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Aug 2022 16:52

Do you actually have the birth certificate, because the Census safc found shows Ellen Hickey as unmarried.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2022 16:55

The poster quotes DoB and address in OP

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Aug 2022 17:22

Thanks Erika, the address is split on my IPad and I didn’t spot it.

What occupation is given for William on the birth certificate? Please bear in mind that unless William is also on the baptismal register he may be a figment of Ellen’s imagination. Which may explain why we cant find him on the census, so far. Being Catholic it might not be possible to find the baptismal record.

Added. Freebmd have a death for a William Seymour in Manchester in 1863 no age given.

Samuel

Samuel Report 29 Aug 2022 17:33

I don't have the birth certificate someone sent me Mary Ellen Seymore born
21/061858 father William Seymore, ( Hawker). mother Ellen Seymore ( Nee )
Hickey.So I am as confused as you .

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Aug 2022 17:38

Ask that person to tell you who registered the birth

And try looking for the supposed marriage

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2022 17:38

The 1863 death suggested by Nameslessone was that of a baby:

SEYMOUR, WILLIAM 0
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 193


Possibly this birth:

SEYMOUR, WILLIAM HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 150


Another William Seymour was born in Manchester in 1863, mmn Dunlay, but he's with his parents and siblings in censuses.