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22 Aug 2022 09:51 |
Looking for any information please about ancestor Ronald (Ronnie) Benjamin. Born 1930+/-London. Ex BBC cameraman. Mother Esther. Many thanks.
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ArgyllGran
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22 Aug 2022 10:45 |
You ask for "any information"..
As you've posted on the "Find Ancestors" board, are you actually looking for information about his ancestors?
Have you attempted to look for information yourself? Try FreeBMD for a start. https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
??? Birth:
BENJAMIN, RONALD IVOR ALFRED mmn SOLOMONS GRO Reference: 1931 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 169
Death:
BENJAMIN, RONALD IVOR ALFRED 1931 GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2007 in CHILTERN HILLS (3271B) Reg L16B Entry Number 21
Parents' marriage ??:
Marriages Jun 1928 (>99%) Benjamin Moss Solomons Poplar 1c 901 Solomons Esther Benjamin Poplar 1c 901
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22 Aug 2022 10:46 |
Frances
Use the freebmd.org.uk website to find his birth, possible marriages and his death.
Once you have his death you can use the probate service to see if he left a will - depending on the date it may be listed on Ancestry.
If he was employed by the BBC they may have records.
Good luck
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ErikaH
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22 Aug 2022 10:51 |
Parents and siblings are on 1939 register
What do you actually wish to know?
How does this man qualify as your ‘ancestor’?
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ArgyllGran
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22 Aug 2022 10:58 |
To go further back than the records I've posted above, you'll need a copy of his parents' marriage cert, to see their ages and fathers' names.
Moss Benjamin's birth is probably one of these two:
BENJAMIN, MOSS mmn JACOBS GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 513
BENJAMIN, MOSS mmn HYMAN GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 503
As the marriage was in Poplar, this MIGHT be Esther's birth:
SOLOMONS, ESTHER mmn MITCHELL GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 541
BUT there are lots of births of girls named Esther Solomons in various parts of London in feasible years. You need the info from the marriage cert to narrow it down.
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ArgyllGran
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22 Aug 2022 11:03 |
If Ronald Ivor Alfred is the right man, this is his marriage, with three variations of his wife's first name:
Marriages Sep 1955 (>99%)
BENJAMIN Ronald I A SOM Bethnal G. 5c 290 BENJAMIN Ronald I A TOM Bethnal G. 5c 290 SOU **** BENJAMIN Bethnal G. 5c 290 TOM **** BENJAMIN Bethnal G. 5c 290
Ronald I A Benjamin in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Ronald I A Benjamin Registration Date: Jul 1955 Aug 1955] [Sep 1955] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Bethnal Green Inferred County: London Spouse: **** Som Or Tom <<<<<<<<<< Volume Number: 5c Page Number: 290
His wife may still be living, for all I know, so I've edited out her first name .
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22 Aug 2022 11:25 |
As Frances is a Benjamin it is likely that Ronnie is family.
It is possible that Ronnie as Ronald is on a tree on Genes, tree owner David Benjamin.
Added: one of Ronnie granddaughters has a tree on Ancestry, but it has very little information.
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ArgyllGran
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22 Aug 2022 11:40 |
The tree on Ancestry gives a different maiden surname for Esther / Ester - but no dates or other info, apart from claiming that she was born in "Hollande".
There's no marriage in England/Wales for her with that surname - which in any case is not that of Ronald Ivor's mother, unless she had been married before - also not in England/Wales.
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ErikaH
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22 Aug 2022 16:27 |
In 1957 and 1958 he was living with wife, mother Esther, and a Marie Solomons in Bethnal Green
Living alone 2002-2007
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ErikaH
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22 Aug 2022 16:42 |
1911 Census For England & Wales 68 Hackney Road Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England
Abraham Solomons Head Married Male 30 1881 French polisher Born in Hoxton Marie Solomons Wife Married Female 29 1882 - Born in Holland******* Esther Solomons Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Born in Kingsland
Parents married 4 years
Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%) DE RAAY Marie Whitechapel 1c 493 SOLOMONS Abraham Whitechapel 1c 493
SOLOMONS, ESTHER DE-RAAG GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 22
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ErikaH
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22 Aug 2022 16:49 |
1939 Register 30 Morris House, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, Bethnal Green, London, England Abraham Soloman 21 Apr 1879 Male Foreman Hand Polisher Married 54 1 Mary Soloman 19 Sep 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 54 2 Esther Benjamin 04 Oct 1907 Female Uniform Cop Hand Finisher Divorced 54 3
Same address as 1957/8
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22 Aug 2022 16:55 |
So was Ronnie with his father or part of the early evacuations?
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ErikaH
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22 Aug 2022 17:01 |
Deaths Dec 1966 (>99%) SOLOMONS MARIE 86 POPLAR 5D 598 _________________________________________________________________
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 24, Union Street, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England
Henry Solomons Head Married Male 45 1856 Cigar packer Aldgate, Middlesex, England Esther Solomons Wife Married Female 46 1855 - Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Solomons Daughter Single Female 25 1876 Cigar maker Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Benjamin Solomons Son Single Male 23 1878 Cigar packer Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Abraham Solomons Son Single Male 21 1880 French polisher Hoxton, Middlesex, England Godfrey Solomons Son Single Male 16 1885 Gas fitter Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Julia Solomons Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Boot machinist Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Angele Solomons Son Single Male 12 1889 - Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Hannah Solomons Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Clara Solomons Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Samuel Solomons Son Single Male 6 1895 - Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Agnes Solomons Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
?? Solomons Abraham 1879 1943 1943 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Stepney, London, England
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ErikaH
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22 Aug 2022 17:19 |
There is this - obviously needs verification
Marriages Dec 1936 (>99%) Benjamin Moss Pobjoy Thanet 2a 3128 Benjamin Moss Grimes Thanet 2a 3128 Grimes Gertrude Benjamin Thanet 2a 3128 Pobjoy Gertrude Benjamin Thanet 2a 3128 Name: Gertrude Grimes Gender: Female Marriage Age: 21 Event Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1904 Marriage Date: 3 Aug 1925 Marriage Place: Gloucester, All Saints, Gloucestershire, England Father: Harry Grimes Spouse: Horace Gilbert Pobjoy
1939 Register 4 Crossways Avenue, Swindon, Swindon M.B., Wiltshire, England Moss Benjamin 10 Jan 1905 Male Photographer Married 85 1 Gertrude Benjamin 06 Nov 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 85 2 Robert Benjamin 28 May 1935 Male At School Single 85 3
Births Jun 1935 (>99%) Benjamin Robert Grimes Swindon 5a 57
Births Sep 1903 (>99%) Pobjoy Horace Gilbert Gloucester 6a 349 Marriages Sep 1925 (>99%) POBJOY Horace G Grimes Gloucester 6a 784 Marriages Mar 1935 (>99%) Pobjoy Horace G White Gloucester 6a 470 White Vera M Pobjoy Gloucester 6a 470 Deaths Jun 1955 (>99%) POBJOY Horace G 51 Cheltenham 7b 306
Marriages Jun 1957 (>99%) POBJOY Vera M WATSON Gloucester C. 7b 777 WATSON Henry A Pobjoy Gloucester C. 7b 777
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ArgyllGran
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22 Aug 2022 17:27 |
1961-62 he was living with his wife in Rickmansworth:
Ronald I- Benjamin in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Ronald I- Benjamin Electoral Date: 1960 Street Address: 12 Ward or Division/Constituency: Rickmansworth West County or Borough: Hertfordshire, England
2002-2007 his wife was living in West Sussex. As far as I can see, she is still living - though not at the same address, which has been sold three times since then. In the same years Ronald was in Buckinghamshire.
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Frances
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27 Aug 2022 20:46 |
Thank you all so very much for the valuable information and for your time and effort to help me trace this ancestor. Ronnie, was my half brother. My Father, Moss Benjamin never talked about the children from his first marriage to Esther Solomons. I knew that Ronnie had been a BBC cameraman and he had a sister and that is all. I had hoped to meet my half-siblings one day, but time and age has played a part sadly. My Father, Moss Benjamin, married Gertrude Grimes, my Mother. Both my parents had two children by their first marriages. I met and knew more about my maternal half-siblings. I was not aware of the website: FreeBMD. Thank you very much for pointing me in that direction. A big thank you for the Register entries and dates and names of spouses.it is all absolutely valuable information for me. I appreciate it very much.
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Frances
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27 Aug 2022 21:37 |
I would like to add that I learned after my father had passed that he been in contact with his first two children over the years, but he had not spoken about them to me. I wanted to know more about my half siblings and although time and age is against that, you have all very kindly provided so much information which will help me to research further. Thank you very much indeed..
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2022 10:43 |
Ronald's grandmother....................and relations
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 36, Crescent Place, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England
Leon Content Head Married Male 48 1853 Tailor Holland (Netherlands) Phoebe Content Wife Married Female 46 1855 Tailoress Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Hyman Content Son Single Male 14 1887 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Marie De Raay Niece Single Female 20 1881 Tailoress - Holland Harry Tertaas Boarder Single Male 19 1882 Tailor - Holland Thirza Peters Servant Single Female 18 1883 Servant "domestic" -
Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%) COHEN Phoebe London C. 1c 175 CONTENT Leendert London C. 1c 175
Name: Leendert Content Residence Age: 0 Birth Date: 19 mei 1853 (19 May 1853) Birth Place: Beverwijk Residence Year: 1853 Father: Hijman Content Mother: Abigaël Menist
Name: Leon Content Death Age: 73 Birth Date: abt 1854 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun 1927 Registration District: Stepney Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 223
Name: Hyam Content Age: 3 Birth Date: 21 Jan 1887 Admission Date: 9 Jul 1890 School: Virginia Road School Father: Leon Content Notes: Virginia Road School (0266) opened in 1875. Renamed Virginia School in 1951
Name: Hyman Content Death Age: 83 Birth Date: 22 Jan 1887 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1970 Registration District: Croydon Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5a Page: 1460
1939 Register 6 Grove Road, Worthing, Worthing M.B., Sussex, England Hyman Content 22 Jan 1887 Male School Master Widowed 126 1 Phyllis P (Phoebe P) Holiday (Haas,Content) 03 Sep 1913 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 126 2 John J Content 21 Aug 1923 Male At School Single 126 3
Marriages Sep 1945 (>99%) Content Hyman Harris Hammersmith 1a 759 Harris Phyllis Content Hammersmith 1a 759
Name: Hyman Content (Company Director) Arrival Age: 72 Birth Date: 22 Jan 1887 Port of Departure: Barbados Arrival Date: 22 Jan 1959 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ports of Voyage: Barbados; Trinidad and Jamaica Ship Name: Golfito Shipping Line: Messrs Elders and Fyffes Ltd Official Number: 4033/01 Name: Phyllis Content Arrival Age: 47 Birth Date: 18 Sep 1911 Port of Departure: Barbados Arrival Date: 22 Jan 1959 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ports of Voyage: Barbados; Trinidad and Jamaica Ship Name: Golfito Shipping Line: Messrs Elders and Fyffes Ltd
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2022 11:00 |
CONTENT, RAPHAEL COHEN GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 186
CONTENT, RAPHAEL 2 GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in OF NORTH IN THE COUNTY OF LONDON Volume 01C Page 126
Births Mar 1887 (>99%) Content Hyman Bethnal Green 1c 180a
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2022 11:15 |
Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%) Content Hyman Fulham 1a 977 Hanreck Isabella Fulham 1a 977
CONTENT, PHOEBE PHYLLIS HANRECK GRO Reference: 1913 D Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 387
CONTENT, JACOB JOHN GRO Reference: 1923 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 349
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