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KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 29 Jan 2022 11:31

If you email here they may hold old maps of the area with Oaken Court shown:-

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I'm sure Oaken Court will be within 42 acres of Oaken Lodge as they were sold at the same auction with the cottages and it states that they all stand in 42 acres.

I think there is half a chance that Oaken Court stood where Springfield House Care Home now stands as this was a purpose built care home, so maybe Oaken Court was demolished in order to build it.

Old maps at the library may be able to solve the mystery.

Kath. x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jan 2022 14:07

Springfield House is on maps as far back as 1881:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101597063

and is specifically named in 1861 census and onwards (though not named in 1871).


Oaken Lodge is named specifically in 1871 and later.
In 1871 there are three unmarried sisters (all governesses), two pupils, and a servant living there.

Earlier I mentioned Richard M Shelton as living in Springfield House in 1911.
In 1871 he's at an unnamed house (aged 7 months) with other members of his family. That house is two houses after Oaken Lodge on the enumerator's list
- there's a gardener's cottage in between them.

I assume the unnamed house is Springfield House It seems odd that it's not named, but Oaken Lodge is - if Oaken Lodge was the lodge for Springfield House.

In 1871, as well as Oaken Lodge, there's another house called The Lodge.

1881 and onwards, the Sheltons are at Springfield House (named). Oaken Lodge isn't named in 1881.

In 1891, there's Springfield House (the Sheltons) , then Springfield Lodge (a gardener) , and then Oaken Lodge (Samuel Cutter, glass merchant and large family).
So Oaken Lodge (a very large house in itself) was not the lodge for Springfield House.

1901 - Samuel Cutter's still at Oaken Lodge, and the Sheltons are still at Springfield House - Oaken Lodge at the beginning of the enumerator's route, and Springfield House near the end.

1911 - as already said, the Manbys are at Oaken Lodge, at the start of the route;
The Sheltons are still at Springfield House, which, again, is near the end of the route.

The enumerators seems to take a more-or-less circular route around the village, so Oaken Lodge and Springfield House do seem to be one or two houses apart.

"The Lodge" isn't named after 1871.

ADDED:
Just an interesting thing I've noticed (nothing to do with Oaken court) - on the 1851 census there's an address "Lord Wrottesley's Observatory", where Richard Philpott, 25, Astronomical Observer, lived (also Benjamin Cradock, 19, assistant gardener).

About Lord Wrottesley:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wrottesley,_2nd_Baron_Wrottesley

Wrottesley Hall is a little south-west of Oaken. The observatory shows up on old maps

Richard Philpott's work was praised , and a full account given of the construction of the observatory, by Lord Wrottesley, in a paper to the Royal Astronomical Society in 1853:
https://tinyurl.com/2p8njczh
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