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Deborah
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29 Sep 2021 11:19 |
Please could I have some help with locating census records.
1871 census, Monk Street, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales Christopher Martin 1845, Wife Catherine 1848,Son John 1869 and son Richard 1871
In 1881, 74 New Road, Hindley ,Wigan, Lancashire. Christopher,Catherine,John,Richard, and Charity 1876, Sarah E 1878 and Thomas 1881.
Then in 1910 at Hanover,Luzerne,Pennsylvania,USA. Christopher,Catherine,Richard and Charlotte age 32, Thomas age 28 and Bessie age 24. According to this census Christopher (not stated whether with or without family) emigrated in 1888.
I cant find the family in 1890/1891 or 1900/1901. or in any emigration records.
I am trying to piece together what happened to the family members but without the missing census's its proving a bit difficult.
Any help would be really appreciated.
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29 Sep 2021 11:37 |
is this son thomas
Name: Thomas Martin Gender: M (Male) Birth Date: Jan 1881 Birth Place: Wigan, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England Death Date: Sep 1881 Death Place: Wigan, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England Cemetery: Lower Ince Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Ince in Makerfield, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England Has Bio?: Y URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/221812440/thomas-martin
? 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Charlotte Martin Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Mother's Name: Catherine Martin Gender: Female Where born: England Registration Number: 647 Registration district: Hamilton Civil parish: Hamilton County: Lanarkshire Address: Front Row Ferniegair ED: 28 Household schedule number: 145 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1901_339 Household Members Age Relationship Catherine Martin 52 Head John Martin 30 Son Richard Martin 28 Son Charlotte Martin 25 Daur (Daughter) Thonas Martin 20 Son Bessie Martin 17 Daur (Daughter) Katie Martin 15 Daur (Daughter) Christopher Martin 13 Son
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29 Sep 2021 11:42 |
For our reference:
Christpher Marton in the 1871 Wales Census Name: Christpher Marton Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Marton Gender: Male Where born: Ludgvan, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Aberdare Town: Aberdare County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub-registration district: Aberdare ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 101 Piece: 5408 Folio: 61 Page number: 21 Household Members Age Relationship Christpher Marton 26 Head Catherine Marton 23 Wife John Marton 2 Son Richd Martin 2 Months Son
Christopher Martin in the 1881 England Census Name: Christopher Martin Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Catherine Martin Gender: Male Where born: Penzance, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Hindley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 74 New Road Private House Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Coal Miner Registration District: Wigan ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: Piece: 3773 Folio: 38 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Christopher Martin 36 Catherine Martin 32 John Martin 12 Richard Martin 10 Charity Martin 5 Sarah E. Martin 3 Thomas Martin 0
Travelling back to UK:
Christopher Martin in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name: Christopher Martin Arrival Age: 54 Birth Date: abt 1845 Port of Departure: New York, New York, USA Arrival Date: Jun 1899 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Teutonic Official Number: 96334
Travelling with Catherine 51, John P 28, Richard 25, Charlotta 23, Thomas 18, Bessie 11, Kate 10, Christopher 8.
Christopher Martin in the 1910 United States Federal Census Name: Christopher Martin Age in 1910: 60 Birth Date: 1850 [1850] Birthplace: England Home in 1910: Hanover, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA House Number: 65 Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1888 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Catherine Martin Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Native Tongue: English Occupation: Miner Industry: Coal Mines Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner Home Owned or Rented: Rent Farm or House: House Naturalization Status: Alien Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Years Married: 40 Out of Work: N Number of Weeks Out of Work: 20 Neighbors: Household Members Age Relationship Christopher Martin 60 Head Catherine Martin 57 Wife Richard Martin 35 Son Charlotte Martin 32 Daughter Thomas Martin 28 Son Bessie Martin 24 Daughter
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2021 11:46 |
Charlotte Martin in the Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967 Name: Charlotte Martin Gender: Female Race: White Age: 73 Birth Date: 2 Feb 1876 Birth Place: England Death Date: 18 Mar 1949 Death Place: Hanover, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA Father: Christopher Martin Mother: Katherine Carbis Certificate Number: 23803
Charlotte Martin in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Charlotte Martin Age: 38 Birth Year: abt 1882 Birthplace: England Home in 1920: Hanover, Luzerne, Pennsylvania Street: Oxford Residence Date: 1920 Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1888 Relation to Head of House: Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Name: Catherine Martin Mother's Birthplace: England Native Tongue: English Able to Speak English: Yes Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: Household Members Age Relationship Catherine Martin 68 Head Richard Martin 45 Son Thomas R Martin 36 Son Bessie Martin 30 Daughter Charlotte Martin 38 Daughter
All immigrated in 1888
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2021 11:47 |
Charlotte Martin in the 1930 United States Federal Census Name: Charlotte Martin Birth Year: abt 1876 Gender: Female Race: White Age in 1930: 54 Birthplace: England Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Sister Homemaker?: Yes Home in 1930: Hanover, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA Map of Home: Street Address: Axford St House Number: 63 Dwelling Number: 186 Family Number: 199 Attended School: No Able to Read and Write: Yes Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Language Spoken: English Immigration Year: 1888 Naturalization: Alien Able to Speak English: Yes Household Members Age Relationship Richard Martin 59 Head Charlotte Martin 54 Sister Thomas Martin 48 Brother Bessie Martin 46 Sister
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Maddie
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29 Sep 2021 11:49 |
??? Chris Arrival port Ellis Island, New York Last name Martin Place New York Sex Male Residence Hamilton Age 56y Country United States Birth year 1845 Source dataset New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Origin country England View original source record View the record's source Year 1901 Record set British & Irish Roots Collection Ship departure port Glasgow Category Travel & migration Destination country United States Subcategory Migration Arrival year 1901
Chris Arrival place New York Last name Martin Ship name Ethiopia Role Passenger Country United States Sex Male Collection New York City Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Age 56y NARA publication number M237 and T715 Birth year 1845 Record set United States, Passenger And Crew Lists Nationality England, English Category Travel & migration Residence Hamilton ------------------- Subcategory Passenger Lists Year 1901 Collections from Americas, United States Departure port Glasgow
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2021 11:50 |
So the family appears to have emigrated in 1888, returned to the UK in 1899, were in Scotland in 1901, but back in the US by 1910/
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Deborah
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29 Sep 2021 11:52 |
Yes AG, they seemed to have moved around more than I thought. Thankyou for all this information.
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2021 11:56 |
The 1901 record Maddie posted for Chris Martin travelling from Glasgow to NY -
he's a miner, travelling alone, married, English, last residence Hamilton, destination 81 Wyoming Street, Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. Paid his own passage.
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2021 11:58 |
??? Chris Martin in the Pennsylvania, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists, 1800-1962 Name: Chris Martin Gender: Male Arrival Age: 43 Birth Date: abt 1844 Birth Place: England Last Residence: Scotland Departure Place: Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland Arrival Date: 14 Nov 1887 Arrival Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Ship: Manitoban
Occupation: miner. Travelling alone.
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Deborah
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29 Sep 2021 12:00 |
I did see that one for "Chris" earlier, did wonder if it was him.
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2021 12:02 |
??? Christr Martin in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 Name: Christr Martin Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Age: 20 Birth Date: abt 1845 Place of Origin: England Departure Port: Liverpool, England Destination: USA Arrival Date: 9 Nov 1865 Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA Ship Name: Wm Tapscott
Hard to know if there was more than one Chris* Martin or not.
This one also travelling alone.
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Deborah
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29 Sep 2021 12:04 |
Yes, thank you AG.
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Maddie
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29 Sep 2021 12:30 |
son john
Name: Minnie Martin [Minnie Lanyon] Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish) Marital status: Married Age: 29 Birth Date: abt 1879 Birth Place: Scotland Other Birth Place: Lakhall Last Known Residence: Wilksbane, USA Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland Arrival Date: 4 Nov 1908 Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA Final Destination: Wilksbane, Pennsylvania Height: 5 Feet, 3 Inches Hair Colour: Brown Eye Colour: Black Complexion: Fair Person in Old Country: Wm Lanyon Person in Old Country Relationship: Father Person in US: John C Martin Person in US Relationship: Husband Father: Wm Lanyon Spouse: John C Martin Ship Name: California Search Ship Database: Search for the California in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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Deborah
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29 Sep 2021 12:41 |
Lanyon is another family name who I am familiar with, thank you Maddie, this is all brilliant, thank you.
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Deborah
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29 Sep 2021 12:53 |
Just looked at my tree, Minnie is one of my Ancestors. Minnie Jane Lanyon 1874, Scotland to 1951, Pennsylvania, Father William George Lanyon, Mother Charity Martin 1850 Lugdvan,Cornwall.
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LondonBelle
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29 Sep 2021 14:19 |
Obituary for Charlotte Martin in the Wilkes-Barre Record 19 Mar 1949
Miss Charlotte Martin, 73 died at her home 72 Simon Block Street, Buttonwood at 12:30 yesterday following an illness of several years. Born in England, Miss Martin came to Lee Park as a young girl and spent most of her life there, moving to Buttonwood several years ago. She is survived by three sisters, Miss Bessie Martin with whom she made her home; Mrs Sarah Honeychurch, Lee Park, and Mrs Kate Lanyon, Philadelphia. A brother, Richard Martin, died one year ago. The funeral will take place from the home Monday afternoon at 1:30 with interment at Pine Hill Cemetery, Shickshinny Arrangements by Luther M Kniffen
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LondonBelle
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29 Sep 2021 14:34 |
Death Announcement for Christopher Martin in the Wilkes-Barre Record 20 Mar 1912
Christopher Martin, aged 62, died yesterday afternoon at his home, 65 Oxford Street, of bronchitis. He is survived by his wife and the following children: John, Richard, Charlotte, Mrs Richard Honeychurch, Thomas, Bessie, Mrs Edward Lanyon and Christopher Jr.
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2021 16:12 |
https://www.wilkes-barre.city/sites/g/files/vyhlif4086/f/uploads/wbcemeteryrecordscomplete.pdf
Lot no 653: Burial of Lilian May Lanyon on 29 Jan 1906, aged 2 yrs 5 mths, "septicemia following blood poison". Death 28 Jan 1906. Daughter of E Lanyon. Grand-daughter of Mr & Mrs Christopher Martin, Oxford Street.
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Deborah
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29 Sep 2021 16:37 |
Thank you so much for all that, I am so grateful.
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