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9 Sep 2021 13:37 |
???????????? Martha District Pocklington Last name Jones County Yorkshire Gender Female Volume 9D Birth day - Page 47 Birth month - Country England Birth year 1877 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Age 6 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 3 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death year 1883 Collections from Great Britain, England
Annie District Pocklington Last name Jones County Yorkshire Gender Female Volume 9D Birth day - Page 47 Birth month - Country England Birth year 1875 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Age 8 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 3 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death year 1883 Collections from Great Britain, England
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greyghost
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9 Sep 2021 13:38 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Mill House, Huggate, Pocklington, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Blanchard Head - Male 45 1826 - Yorkshire, England Ann Blanchard Wife - Female 42 1829 - Yorkshire, England Elizabeth Blanchard Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Yorkshire, England William Blanchard Son - Male 5 1866 - Yorkshire, England George Blanchard Son - Male 4 1867 - Yorkshire, England Eliza Blanchard Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Yorkshire, England John Blanchard Son - Male 1 1870 - Yorkshire, England
Robert born Foggasthorpe --------------
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BLANCHARD, WILLIAM JOHNSON JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in POCKLINGTON Volume 09D Page 65
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ArgyllGran
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9 Sep 2021 13:40 |
Can't see Arthur after 1911 with any certainty, but there are several records for males named Arthur Johns (and Arthur Lee, in case John Lee adopted him)) of around the right age, in various places . Can't tell if any of them might be him.
There's no way of knowing where he might have moved to.
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Marie
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9 Sep 2021 13:44 |
Oh wow, that's great thank you
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Maddie
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9 Sep 2021 13:59 |
???? Arthur Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Last name Jones County Yorkshire (East Riding) Birth year 1909 Country England Birth date 10 Feb 1909 Archive Borthwick Institute for Archives Baptism year 1910 Archive reference PR POCK 74 Baptism date 11 Jan 1910 Page 79 Baptism place Pocklington Record set Yorkshire Baptisms Denomination Anglican Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Father's first name(s) - Subcategory Parish Baptisms abode the poplars
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ErikaH
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9 Sep 2021 14:20 |
Further to my earlier post...............
LEE, SARAH ALICE JOHNS GRO Reference: 1919 D Quarter in LEYBURN Volume 09D Page 1300
Marriages Sep 1943 (>99%) Keddie Sarah A Macintyre Wensleydale 9d 1247 Lee Sarah A Macintyre Wensleydale 9d 1247 Macintyre William Keddie Wensleydale 9d 1247 Macintyre William Lee Wensleydale 9d 1247
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9 Sep 2021 14:24 |
1861 - Robert Blanchard unmarried
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Pain Slack, Huggate, Pocklington, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Hannah King Head Widow Female 55 1806 ... 760 acres employing 5 labourer and 7 boys Yorkshire, England John King Son Unmarried Male 36 1825 Manager of farm Huggate, Yorkshire, England Ann Moxon Daughter - Female 28 1833 - Huggate, Yorkshire, England Mary Moxon Granddaughter - Female 3 1858 - Canterbury, Kent, England Elizabeth Dooks Niece - Female 12 1849 House maid Middleton, Yorkshire, England Jane Horsley Visitor Unmarried Female 21 1840 - Garton, Yorkshire, England Elizabeth Alert Servant Unmarried Female 20 1841 Domestic servant Banks, Yorkshire, England Mary Sill Servant Unmarried Female 20 1841 Domestic servant Huggate, Yorkshire, England Robert Blanchard Servant Unmarried Male 35 1826 Foreman Foggathorpe, Yorkshire, England Thomas Johnson Servant Unmarried Male 20 1841 Waggoner Warter, Yorkshire, England John Jackson Servant Unmarried Male 18 1843 Ploughboy Sutton, Lincolnshire, England John Vose Servant - Male 15 1846 Ploughboy Pocklington, Yorkshire, England Isaac Sill Servant - Male 15 1846 Ploughboy Huggate, Yorkshire, England David Johnson Servant - Male 12 1849 Ploughboy Huggate, Yorkshire, England Wilson Burks Servant - Male 13 1848 Ploughboy Huggate, Yorkshire, England Francis Pickering Servant - Male 14 1847 Shepherd Garton, Yorkshire, England David Pickering Servant Married Male 27 1834 Assistant shepherd Huggate, Yorkshire, England Mark Snowden Servant Married Male 61 1800 Cow herd Rufforth, Yorkshire, England Robert Young - Married Male 56 1805 Labourer agricultural Yorkshire, England
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greyghost
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9 Sep 2021 14:30 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1861 (>99%) BLANSHARD Robert Pocklington 9d 133 BROWN Ann Pocklington 9d 133
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%) Brown William Pocklington 23 125 JOHNSON Ann Pocklington 23 125 Manners Mary Ann Pocklington 23 125 Mitton William Pocklington 23 125
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greyghost
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9 Sep 2021 14:44 |
Unable to access GRO site at present to see ages -
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Sep 1852 (>99%) Brown William Pocklington 9d 54
Deaths Jun 1855 (>99%) Brown William Pocklington 9d 140
Edit 1852 death aged 0
1855 death not showing
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ErikaH
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9 Sep 2021 15:07 |
The only way to be certain that you follow the correct John William Lee is to get a copy of his marriage cert to find out if he knew his father's details
It will also tell you whether he'd been married before, which would be a distinct possibility, in view of his age
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Marie
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9 Sep 2021 15:34 |
Thank you so much every one
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ErikaH
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9 Sep 2021 15:50 |
BROWN, WILLIAM 35 GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in PATRINGTON Volume 09D Page 140
On freebmd 'Pocklington' is in italics - meaning there is a query. In this case, the transcriber can't read - the image is very clear
I have submitted a correction to freebmd
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ArgyllGran
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9 Sep 2021 16:25 |
Marie said that John William Lee's father was Robert - a blacksmith.
Does it say if Robert was alive or deceased in 1914, Marie? And any other details about John would be helpful. What was his occupation?
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ErikaH
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9 Sep 2021 16:32 |
Oops! I missed that entirely!
The address might give a clue...........and the witnesses' names
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ErikaH
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9 Sep 2021 16:34 |
On looking at Ancestry, I see that the record for Alice Macintyre(Keddie) is redacted, so her death hasn't been picked up, although one assumes FMP have opened the record under the 100-year rule
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ArgyllGran
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9 Sep 2021 16:37 |
FMP quite often shows open records on the 1939 register, when they're still closed on Ancestry.
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greyghost
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9 Sep 2021 19:49 |
My question @ 1223 Do you have the marriage cert. What was John's marital status and What age was John William Lee and what was his occupation - ? possible to find them on the 1939 register
answer 1242 Not sure how old John was, but I believe he was a joiner.
So ? Marie doesn't have the certificate?
How do you know his Father was Robert a Blacksmith? and why do you think he was a joiner.
All details from the marriage certificate if you do have it please
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Marie
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10 Sep 2021 09:22 |
Thanks all. I am trying to find out the details from marriage certificate, as someone in family does have it. Once I have these, I can update.
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Marie
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10 Sep 2021 10:21 |
UPDATE FROM MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE
28th November 1914 Pocklington
John William Lee Age 43 Condition - bachelor Occupation- joiner Address- South Parade, Pocklington Father- Robert Lee, deceased Father occupation- Blacksmith
Elizabeth Johns Age- 34 Condition- spinster Address- Pocklington (I know she was in the workhouse at this time) Father- William Johns, deceased Father occupation- farm labourer
Witnesses- J or F Todd & J. Atkinson
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ArgyllGran
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10 Sep 2021 11:44 |
Thanks, Marie.
However, I'm afraid I don't see any John (William) Lee in 1911,who's a joiner and unmarried and the right age.
Nor in 1881 with a blacksmith father named Robert.
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