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New thread started re Sarah Ann John's husband William Blanchard:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1396678

Thanks everyone for your time and research. It's helped me lots.

Births for the correct year - which, of course, pre-dates the introduction of penalties for not registering, so his birth may be unrecorded

LEE, JOHN WILLIAM SAYLES
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 364
LEE, JOHN WILLIAM CHEETHAM
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 567
LEE, JOHN WILLIAM GIBSON
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in KENDAL Volume 10B Page 670
LEE, JOHN WILLIAM GREEN
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in MACCLESFIELD Volume 08A Page 113
LEE, JOHN WILLIAM RUSHFORTH
GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in HUNSLET Volume 09B Page 272
LEE, JOHN WILLIAM CRYER
GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 36
LEE, JOHN WILLIAM SIMMONS
GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 682
LEE, JOHN WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in HEXHAM Volume 10B Page 280
LEE, JOHN WILLIAM TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 142

You're totally right, Maddie. What an idiot I am!

It's been a tough week!

I will remove the useless info I posted - thanks for putting me straight

thought he was born 1871 according to burial record

Name: John William Lee
Birth Date: 1871
Death Date: 1 Nov 1936

No-one named Lee in South Parade, Pocklington on 1911 census

Thanks, Marie.

However, I'm afraid I don't see any John (William) Lee in 1911,who's a joiner and unmarried and the right age.

Nor in 1881 with a blacksmith father named Robert.

UPDATE FROM MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE

28th November 1914 Pocklington

John William Lee
Age 43
Condition - bachelor
Occupation- joiner
Address- South Parade, Pocklington
Father- Robert Lee, deceased
Father occupation- Blacksmith

Elizabeth Johns
Age- 34
Condition- spinster
Address- Pocklington (I know she was in the workhouse at this time)
Father- William Johns, deceased
Father occupation- farm labourer

Witnesses- J or F Todd & J. Atkinson

Thanks all.
I am trying to find out the details from marriage certificate, as someone in family does have it.
Once I have these, I can update.

My question @ 1223
Do you have the marriage cert. What was John's marital status and
What age was John William Lee and what was his occupation - ? possible to find them on the 1939 register

answer 1242
Not sure how old John was, but I believe he was a joiner.

So ? Marie doesn't have the certificate?

How do you know his Father was Robert a Blacksmith?
and why do you think he was a joiner.

All details from the marriage certificate if you do have it please

FMP quite often shows open records on the 1939 register, when they're still closed on Ancestry.

On looking at Ancestry, I see that the record for Alice Macintyre(Keddie) is redacted, so her death hasn't been picked up, although one assumes FMP have opened the record under the 100-year rule

Oops! I missed that entirely!

The address might give a clue...........and the witnesses' names

Marie said that John William Lee's father was Robert - a blacksmith.

Does it say if Robert was alive or deceased in 1914, Marie?
And any other details about John would be helpful.
What was his occupation?

BROWN, WILLIAM 35
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in PATRINGTON Volume 09D Page 140

On freebmd 'Pocklington' is in italics - meaning there is a query. In this case, the transcriber can't read - the image is very clear

I have submitted a correction to freebmd

Thank you so much every one

The only way to be certain that you follow the correct John William Lee is to get a copy of his marriage cert to find out if he knew his father's details

It will also tell you whether he'd been married before, which would be a distinct possibility, in view of his age

Unable to access GRO site at present to see ages -

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Sep 1852 (>99%)
Brown William Pocklington 9d 54

Deaths Jun 1855 (>99%)
Brown William Pocklington 9d 140

Edit 1852 death aged 0

1855 death not showing

??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1861 (>99%)
BLANSHARD Robert Pocklington 9d 133
BROWN Ann Pocklington 9d 133


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
Brown William Pocklington 23 125
JOHNSON Ann Pocklington 23 125
Manners Mary Ann Pocklington 23 125
Mitton William Pocklington 23 125

1861 - Robert Blanchard unmarried

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pain Slack, Huggate, Pocklington, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hannah King Head Widow Female 55 1806 ... 760 acres employing 5 labourer and 7 boys Yorkshire, England
John King Son Unmarried Male 36 1825 Manager of farm Huggate, Yorkshire, England
Ann Moxon Daughter - Female 28 1833 - Huggate, Yorkshire, England
Mary Moxon Granddaughter - Female 3 1858 - Canterbury, Kent, England
Elizabeth Dooks Niece - Female 12 1849 House maid Middleton, Yorkshire, England
Jane Horsley Visitor Unmarried Female 21 1840 - Garton, Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth Alert Servant Unmarried Female 20 1841 Domestic servant Banks, Yorkshire, England
Mary Sill Servant Unmarried Female 20 1841 Domestic servant Huggate, Yorkshire, England
Robert Blanchard Servant Unmarried Male 35 1826 Foreman Foggathorpe, Yorkshire, England
Thomas Johnson Servant Unmarried Male 20 1841 Waggoner Warter, Yorkshire, England
John Jackson Servant Unmarried Male 18 1843 Ploughboy Sutton, Lincolnshire, England
John Vose Servant - Male 15 1846 Ploughboy Pocklington, Yorkshire, England
Isaac Sill Servant - Male 15 1846 Ploughboy Huggate, Yorkshire, England
David Johnson Servant - Male 12 1849 Ploughboy Huggate, Yorkshire, England
Wilson Burks Servant - Male 13 1848 Ploughboy Huggate, Yorkshire, England
Francis Pickering Servant - Male 14 1847 Shepherd Garton, Yorkshire, England
David Pickering Servant Married Male 27 1834 Assistant shepherd Huggate, Yorkshire, England
Mark Snowden Servant Married Male 61 1800 Cow herd Rufforth, Yorkshire, England
Robert Young - Married Male 56 1805 Labourer agricultural Yorkshire, England