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6 May 2021 20:04 |
Not my Mary Wright unfortunately ,
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Jean
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6 May 2021 19:34 |
Thank you AgylleGran,
not my John on the Naturalization records then . I'll check on the marriage on Scotlandspeople to see if it's my Mary Wright , not holding out much hope though mary's parents, siblings and most of the McCluskeys were married and died in the Calton / Bridgeton area of Glasgow not really near Anderston .
thank you for looking though
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6 May 2021 18:16 |
Death ???:
MCMENAMIN [ also listed as WRIGHT ] MARY 80 1952 644/9 206 Kelvingrove
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6 May 2021 18:03 |
This is probably the John who married in Anderston, and his family, in the 1911 census. His wife Mary was born c1874:
MCMENAMIN MARY 1911 F 4 644/11 16/ 1 Anderston Lanark
MCMENAMIN JOHN 1911 M 2 644/11 16/ 1 Anderston Lanark
MCMENAMIN JAMES 1911 M 7 644/11 16/ 1 Anderston Lanark
MCMENAMIN ANTHONY 1911 M 1 644/11 16/ 1 Anderston Lanark
MCMENAMIN JOHN 1911 M 38 644/11 16/ 1 Anderston Lanark
MCMENAMIN MARY 1911 F 37 644/11 16/ 1 Anderston Lanark
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ArgyllGran
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6 May 2021 17:55 |
From that record, for our info:
John Joseph McCabe was born in Kilnaleck, Ireland on 12 June 1880, and his wife was Margaret, age 31, born Glasgow. They arrived in New York on 15 Feb 1910, on board the ship "Califronia", having left Greenock on 5 Feb 1910.
John McMenamin was a boiler maker.
This seems to be the man in question:
John Mcmenamin in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: John Mcmenamin [John Mc Menamin] Age: 54 Birth Year: abt 1866 Birthplace: Ireland <<<<<<<<<<<<< Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 28, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania House Number: 2355 North Woodstock Street <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Residence Date: 1920 Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1893 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Rose Mcmenamin Father's Birthplace: Ireland Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Native Tongue: English Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Boiler Maker <<<<<<<<<<<<< Industry: Navy Yard Employment Field: Wage or Salary Home Owned or Rented: Owned Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged Naturalization Status: Naturalized Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: Household Members Age Relationship John Mcmenamin 54 Head Rose Mcmenamin 45 Wife - Ireland
?? Rose McArdle in the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S., Marriage Index, 1885-1951 Name: Rose McArdle Gender: Female Spouse: John McMenamin Spouse Gender: Male Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States Marriage Year: 1912 Marriage License Number: 275983 Digital GSU Number: 4141890
So - presumably not the man who married in Anderston.
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6 May 2021 16:16 |
I wonder if I could ask another favour please.
I've found on Familysearch the Petition for Naturalization for John joseph McCabe in 1915 one of the witnesses was a John McMenamin residing at 2355, Nth Woodstock st, Pennsylvania , but I can't find him on a passenger list .
I'm curious to find out who he is only because I have found on Scotlandspeople a marriage for a John McMenamin to a Mary Wright in 1903 in Anderston and I'm wondering if she is any relation to my Wright family . I don't want to use my credits looking at the marriage if its not her ,
thank you
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Jean
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6 May 2021 15:53 |
Thank you Argylegran ,
I've checked the other births on Scotlandspeople unfortunately not her , maybe a daughter born to one of Mary Ann 's relatives because all the Mary's related to Henry Wright are accounted for,,
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ArgyllGran
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5 May 2021 18:05 |
Re Mary P Wright 1906-
(don't know which thread it's best suited to, so posting here since she's been mentioned)
You have this record - but in order to post the details for the helpers;
Mary Wright in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 Name: Mary Wright Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish) Marital status: Single Age: 16 Birth Date: abt 1906 Birth Place: Scotland Other Birth Place: Glasgow, Scotland Last Known Residence: Glasgow, Scotland Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland Arrival Date: 13 Aug 1922 Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA Final Destination: Clarenceville, New York Years in US: Permanently Citizenship Intention: No Hair Colour: Light Brown Eye Colour: Gray Complexion: Fresh Person in Old Country: Mrs Cath Quinn [ sister of Mary Ann, 86 Oxford St, Glasgow ] Person in Old Country Residence: Glasgow, S.s. Person in US: Mrs Annie Livingstone Person in US Relationship: Cousin [ of Mary Ann, 9434 110th St, Clarenceville, NY ] Ship Name: Columbia
Travelling with her mother (relationship according to the travel record) Mary 41, widow, last residence Glasgow, brother (relationship per the travel record) Francis 4, and sister Elizabeth 2.
The two Marys each paid their own passage, and the mother paid for the two younger children.
Mary Ann married Henry Wright in 1912 , so Mary junior may not be the daughter of Henry - or maybe not of either Mary or Henry; maybe some other relation.
There's a big age gap between young Mary and Francis, if they're siblings - though not impossible.
MCGRATH MARY ANNE WRIGHT HENRY 1912 644/15 78 Hutchesontown
IF young Mary was Mary Ann's daughter before marriage - there were three Mary McGraths born in Glasgow in 1906 - one of them in Camlachie, which I seem to remember is relevant to your family.
MCGRATH MARY F 1906 644/2 513 Camlachie
EDIT: BUT that's not your Mary. From the 1911 census and then marriages on SP, her parents were Peter McGrath and Mary McCourt.
The other two Mary McGraths born in 1906 in Glasgow were born in Anderston, and Govan.
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Jean
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5 May 2021 16:28 |
Sorry for the late replies just now got back to reading them.
Thank you Shirley, I don't think any of my ancestors went to Canada as children unless of course they were with their parents, thankfully.
Maddie ,, thank you so much for all this information most if not all I don't have so lots to be going on with .
As for Mary P Wright I have not been able to find a birth for her on Scotlandspeople or indeed on the 1911 census even just putting her christian name and d.o.b.and the area of Glasgow were her two siblings Francis and Elizabeth were born , assuming they are her siblings .
Argylegran, thank you for re-upping the threads for Elizabeth , I dont know how many years I have been searching for her and her daughter Mary and still no joy .
thanks again to all
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5 May 2021 15:36 |
You say you have Margaret McGrath/McCabe in 1930 and 1940.
Here's 1920 to add to that:
Margaret Mccabe in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Margaret Mccabe [Margaret Mc Cabe] Age: 38 Birth Year: abt 1882 Birthplace: Scotland Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 28, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Residence Date: 1920 Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1910 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Relation to Head of House: Wife Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: John Mccabe Father's Birthplace: Ireland [Scotland] Mother's Birthplace: Scotland [Ireland] Native Tongue: English Occupation: None Naturalization Status: Naturalized Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: Household Members Age Relationship John Mccabe 38 Head Margaret Mccabe 38 Wife
Address: 2309 North Woodstock Street
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ArgyllGran
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5 May 2021 00:00 |
Threads about Elizabeth McCluskey, whom Jean mentioned:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1378218
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1382782
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1370878
An elusive woman indeed!
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Maddie
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4 May 2021 17:29 |
Name Francis J Wright Rank Pfc Birth Date 26 Jan 1918 Service Number 33086512 Service Branch Army Unit AC - Hq. & Base Sv. Sq. 73d SV. Gp. Enlistment Date 21 Sep 1942 Discharge Date 6 Nov 1945 Death Date 27 Jul 1967 Cemetery Holy Sepulchre Cemetery Location Phila., Pennsylvania, USA Household Members
Name Francis J. Wright Gender Male Race White Age 49 Birth Date 26 Jan 1918 Birth Place Scotland Death Date 27 Jul 1967 Death Place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Father Henry Wright Mother Mary Wright Spouse Marian Elizabeth Sutliff Wright Certificate Number 072038-67
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Maddie
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4 May 2021 17:18 |
mary 1940 Name: Mary P Stern Respondent: Yes Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907 Gender: Female Race: White Birthplace: Scotland Marital Status: Widowed Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: East Whiteland, Chester, Pennsylvania Map of Home in 1940: Street: Lincoln Highway Farm: No Inferred Residence in 1935: East Whiteland, Chester, Pennsylvania Residence in 1935: East Whiteland Citizenship: Having First Papers Sheet Number: 6A Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 107 House Owned or Rented: Owned Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 6500 Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year Weeks Worked in 1939: 0 Income: 0 Income Other Sources: No Neighbors: Household Members Age Relationship Mary P Stern 33 Head Zenaide Stern 12 Daughter Emma Jean Stern 11 Daughter Mary Ann Stern 2 Daughter Bette Jo Stern 10/12 Daughter Harry C Rambo 58 Brother-in-law
Name: Mary P. Wright Gender: Female Age: 21 Birth Date: abt 1906 Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1927 Marriage Place: Malvern, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA Spouse: Carroll F. Stern Film Number: 000556691
Name: Mary Stern Social Security Number: 176-20-2269 Birth Date: 1 May 1906 Issue Year: Before 1951 Issue State: Pennsylvania Last Residence: 19355, Malvern, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA Death Date: Apr 1982
1930 Name: Mary Stern Birth Year: abt 1906 Gender: Female Race: White Age in 1930: 24 Birthplace: Scotland Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Wife Home in 1930: East Whiteland, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA Map of Home: Street Address: Cedar Hollow Dwelling Number: 163 Family Number: 163 Age at First Marriage: 21 Attended School: No Able to Read and Write: Yes Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Language Spoken: English Naturalization: Un Able to Speak English: Yes Household Members Age Relationship Caroll Stern 38 Head Mary Stern 24 Wife Zenaide Stern 2 Daughter Emma G Stern 1 Daughter Emma Stern 61 Mother
Name: Carroll F Stern Gender: Male Race: White Age: 46 Birth Date: 18 Aug 1893 Birth Place: Pennsylvania Death Date: 4 Oct 1939 Death Place: East Whiteland, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA Father: Joseph R Stern Mother: Emma Lwely Spouse: Mary Stern Certificate Number: 88064 Search for Carroll F Stern in Pennsylvania Wills & Probates collection
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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4 May 2021 17:16 |
Jean
The BHC Canada site covers children who were emigrated to Canada from homes and workhouses in the uk
Many through dr barnardos
The children were sent as indentured servants to farms etc and many were very badly treated
Descendants now are often looking for uk family history of grt grandparent
It’s not a site for general emigration
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Jean
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4 May 2021 16:32 |
Margaret's sister Mary Ann wright died 11/3/1926 in Pennsylvania , I have her and her children's emigration records .
I also have Francis Wright's marriage .
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Jean
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4 May 2021 16:26 |
Thanks again Maddie , Great to have this information ,
regards jean
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Jean
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4 May 2021 16:21 |
Thank you for replying Shirley .
I'll have to check out the BHC Canada site on facebook , a lot of my ancestors emigrated to Canada.
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Maddie
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4 May 2021 16:20 |
in case you dont have it Name: John Joseph McCabe Race: White Birth Date: 12 Jun 1880 Residence Date: 1917-1918 Street Address: 2309 N. Woodstock Residence Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Draft Board: 25 Physical Build: Stout Height: Medium Hair Colour: Brown Eye Colour: Blue Spouse: Mrs. Margaret McCabe
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Jean
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4 May 2021 16:17 |
Hello Rootgatherer, I'm fine thank you how are you ?
Still looking for ancestors as you can see .
the two adopted children Francis and Elizabeth Wright are Margaret's sister Mary Ann Mcgrath's children who married Henry Wright , he died in 1922 so I guess Mary Ann decided to join her sister Margaret in the U.S. Henry's mother was Elizabeth McCluskey who i am still looking for a death for I'm sure there is a very long thread on here somewhere about her and her daughter Mary.
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4 May 2021 16:10 |
Thank you Maddie, Yes that's her mothers maiden name Flood .And father Francis, thank you so much for the information.
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jean
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