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Purplemist

Purplemist Report 21 Feb 2021 16:02

Hello,

My 2nd great grandmother varies a lot in age I have her baptism as 1818 when she died she was put as 78 which was in 1883 which would make her born in 1805
Could they be so far out with her age It also varies on census

Thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Feb 2021 16:14

Perhaps she was baptised late? Did she have siblings who were baptised at the same time?

Her age at death is only ‘as known’ by the person registering it. Do you have the actual cert?

People often weren’t sure about when they were born - especially pre-1837 when there were no certificates

If you want other eyes to look at the records, post the name and location

malyon

malyon Report 21 Feb 2021 16:26

what was your gt.grandmothers name where was she born i could find her on the census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2021 16:27

What about census in between , how much did her age vary

Purplemist

Purplemist Report 21 Feb 2021 16:38

Hello,

Sarah Jackson b1818 Dudley Worcestershire on some records Dudley is put as Staffordshire
She married John Hyde in 1847
her father was a Glazier
I have her death as 1883
I do not have the death certificate yet
On the Census from 1851 to 1881They lived in and around Coseley and Sedgley t Midlands

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2021 16:55

Is this the death you think is hers?

Deaths Jun 1883 (>99%)
Hyde Sarah 78 Dudley 6c 36

The only way to be sure is to buy a copy of the cert.


Sarah Hyde
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Sarah Hyde
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: John Hyde
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Sedgley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 17 Swan Row
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration District: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors:
Piece: 2873
Folio: 61
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hyde 58
Sarah Hyde 67
Phillip Hyde 28


Sarah Hyde
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Hyde
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: 1820 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley
Civil parish: Sedgley
Ecclesiastical parish: Ettingshall
Town: Ettingshall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Sedgley
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Household schedule number: 181
Piece: 3008
Folio: 129
Page number: 35
Household Members Age Relationship
John Hyde 47 Head
Sarah Hyde 51 Wife
John Hyde 21 Son
May A Hyde 14 Daughter
Philip Hyde 12 Son



Sarah Hyde
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Sarah Hyde
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: 1821 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Hyde
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Sedgley
Ecclesiastical parish: Coseley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Dudley
Sub-registration District: Sedgley
ED, institution, or vessel: 60
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 23
Piece: 2053
Folio: 107
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hyde 37
Sarah Hyde 40
John Hyde 11
Mary Ann Hyde 4
Phillip Hyde 2


Taking those three censuses, her average age in 1818 - if that means anything!


???
Sarah Jackson
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Sarah Jackson
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 10 May 1818
Baptism Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Father: James Jackson
Mother: Jane
FHL Film Number: 378765, 378766, 378767



John Hyde
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Hyde
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 74
Registration District: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 463

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2021 17:09

??

Sarah Jackson
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Jackson
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Oalton, Staffordshire, England [ Alton ??]
Civil Parish: Castle Church
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Stafford
Sub-registration District: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 88
Piece: 1999
Folio: 510
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Spilsbury 65
John Spilsbury 36
Sarah Jackson 34

Purplemist

Purplemist Report 21 Feb 2021 17:37

Thank you
I will send for death certificate

malyon

malyon Report 21 Feb 2021 17:52

is this a sister of sarah

Susana. Jackson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:
Susana. Jackson
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
5 Nov 1815
Event Place:
Saint Thomas's Church, Dudley, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Sex:
Female
Father's Name:
Jas. Jackson
Mother's Name:
Jane

malyon

malyon Report 21 Feb 2021 17:53

John Jackson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
John Jackson
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
24 Apr 1814
Event Place:
Saint Thomas's Church, Dudley, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Sex:
Male
Father's Name:
James Jackson
Mother's Name:
Jane

malyon

malyon Report 21 Feb 2021 17:54

Willm. Jackson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
Willm. Jackson
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
9 Apr 1820
Event Place:
Saint Thomas's Church, Dudley, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Sex:
Male
Father's Name:
James Jackson
Mother's Name:
Jane

malyon

malyon Report 21 Feb 2021 17:56

Mary Jackson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
Mary Jackson
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
3 Mar 1822
Event Place:
Saint Thomas's Church, Dudley, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Sex:
Female
Death Date:
13 Dec 1822
Father's Name:
James Jackson
Mother's Name:
Jane

Purplemist

Purplemist Report 21 Feb 2021 18:28

Thank you all for your help I have now sent for certificate when it arrives I will let you know if it is the correct Sarah

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2021 21:41

It's worth repeating that the age stated on a death cert isn't necessarily correct, as it depends on what the informant knew, or thought they knew.

You still won't know exactly when she was born, but at least you'll know when she died
- assuming that's the right death cert..

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Feb 2021 11:29

Marriage 24 May 1847 Wallsall, Staffordshire.
Saint Thomas's Church, Dudley, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Feb 2021 11:41

Her parents marriage

James Jackson and Jane Williams 25 February 1811 Rowley Regis Staffordshire.

James Jackson c1784

Jane Williams c 1788

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Feb 2021 13:24

My grt x 2 grandad fathers age varied from census to census but he couldn’t read or write so wouldn’t be able to count either

His age at death just didn’t equate to any earlier census age but the informant was family so I knew the death cert was him

I just made notes about his age on my ftm tree

Purplemist

Purplemist Report 3 Mar 2021 17:21

Update

The certificate arrived today but alas it is not my family

The certificate for this Sarah address Tipton not Coseley and husband William not John so the search continues I will keep looking for the deaths for both John and Sarah

Regards

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Mar 2021 21:40

Other possibilities:

Deaths Mar 1903 (>99%)
Hyde Sarah 86 Dudley 6c 36

Deaths Jun 1895 (>99%)
Hyde Sarah 75 Dudley 6c 40


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Mar 2021 21:43

Sarah in 1891, with married daughter Mary Ann:

Sarah Hyde
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Sarah Hyde
Gender: Female
Age: 78
Relationship: Mother-in-law
Birth Year: 1813
Child: Mary Ann Wilkes
Birth Place: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Cannock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Residence Place: Hednesford, Cannock, Staffordshire, England
Registration District: Cannock
Sub registration district: Cannock
ED, Institution or Vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Piece: 2221
Folio: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Wilkes 37
Mary Ann Wilkes 36
Joseph E Wilkes 12
George M Wilkes 8
James F Wilkes 5
Sarah Hyde 78 - married
Charles Harding 26