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Born 1891 died 1892 Alnwick allegedly, I say allegedly because he appears on the 1911 census alive and well but I haven't found anything on him after that.

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Name
John George Nelson
Gender
Male
Baptism Date
27 Sep 1891
Baptism Place
Alnwick, Northumberland, England
Father
Stephen Nelson
Mother
Caroline
FHL Film Number
1469103
Reference ID
item 4 p 29
Household Members

a tree on ancestry suggets this is hin

Name: John Nelson
Birth Place: Newcastle-on-tyne
Death Date: 13 Apr 1915
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Alnwick, Northumberland
Rank: Private
Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers
Battalion: Depot Battalion
Regimental Number: 5807
Type of Casualty: Died
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
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War Diaries (Gallipoli): Search for 'Northumberland Fusiliers' in the WWI War Diaries (Gallipoli) collection

Maddie, the first one is mine however the 2nd one I'm not sure of yet.

OFFICIAL record from CWGC site

PRIVATE
J NELSON
Service Number: 5807
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Northumberland Fusiliers

Depot Bn

Date of Death
Died 13 April 1915

Age 33 years old****************************************

Buried or commemorated at
TORQUAY CEMETERY AND EXTENSION

M. 5. 9448.

Son of WALTER and ANNIE, of City Road, Newcastle upon Tyne

John George Nelson
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Alnwick, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: All Saints
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County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Sanitary Place Shieldfield Newcastle
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Labourer (sayyard)
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration District Number: 558
Sub-registration District: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Piece: 30640
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Nelson 52
Caroline Nelson 46
S W Nelson 20
John George Nelson 19
Joseph Nelson 18
James Nelson 17
Stephen Nelson 15
G B R Nelson 11
E Archer Nelson 9

The brother James

James Nelson
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1895
Death Date: 26 Apr 1917
Cemetery: Mercantile Marine Mem. Part VI
Burial Country: England
Regiment: Mercantile Marines
Ship Name: Caithness
Region or Memorial: Memorial Register
Father: Stephen Nelson
Mother: Caroline Nelson
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Births Dec 1891 (>99%)
Nelson John George Alnwick 10b 406

Deaths Jun 1892 (>99%)
Nelson John George 0 Alnwick 10b 238


Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
Angus Elizabeth Alnwick 10b 798 Scan available - click to view
Nelson John George Alnwick 10b 798 Scan available - click to view
Turnbull Robson Algood L Alnwick 10b 798 Scan available - click to view
Weddell Sarah Alnwick 10b 798

Hardly..................he'd have been ELEVEN ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

Just because records come up

Joseph Nelson
Gender: Male
Rank: Gnr
Record Type: Death
Military Service Region: Northern, England
Death Date: 16 Oct 1916
Service Number: 827
Corps, Regiment or Unit: Royal Field Artillery
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: PRC Ledgers
Reference Number: 2/D/13700
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Joseph Nelson
Stephen Nelson Father
Caroline Nelson Mother

Stephen Nelson
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: abt 1859
Registration Date: Oct 1923
[Nov 1923]
[Dec 1923]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 98



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Name: Caroline Nelson
Death Age: 65
Birth Date: abt 1865
Registration Date: Apr 1930
[May 1930]
[Jun 1930]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Castle Ward
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10

Several trees on ancestry have the death of John as the 1915 death record

They're wrong..............probably copied blindly from each other

the john george in the 1911 census said was born 1892 there is no birth for a george in 1892

Walter and Annie Nelson did have a son John but he was born 1881

John Robert C Nelson
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
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Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 90

NELSON, JOHN ROBERT CHRISTIE CHRISTIE
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE ON TYNE Volume 10B Page 90


However Walter and ann didn’t marry till 1897

Marriages Mar 1897
CHRISTIE Ann Newcastle T. 10b 88
Nelson Walter Newcastle T. 10b 88

1891 census
Walker Nelson
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1856
Child: John Nelson
Birth Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Civil Parish: All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthberts
Residence Place: Foreign Trade, All Saints, Northumberland, England
Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, Institution or Vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4210
Folio: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
Walker Nelson 35
John Nelson 11
Ann Cristy 23

Wonder whether John who died in 1915 has been wrongly claimed by someone

Birth years on census returns are ESTIMATED - based on the AGE at the time. Anyone born one day or more after the date corresponding to that on which census was taken would appear to have been born one year later than is actually the case

The 1915 death is clearly detailed on the CWGC site. AGE 33

Census' ask how old a person is and then that age is taken from the year
i.e. 1911 - age 19 = 1892 year born.

But could have been born anytime after the 1891 census taken 5th April up to that date 1892. 75% chance of a person being born the year before the census gives.

1961 - 7 my age at 1961 census. 1961 - 7 = born 1954 - but I was born 9/1953

9/53 + 7 = 9/60 but still 7 on 23rd April 1961 at census time

Facts:

NELSON, JOHN GEORGE mmn SNOWDON
GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in ALNWICK Volume 10B Page 406


Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
Nelson Stephen Alnwick 10b 511
SNOWDON Caroline Alnwick 10b 511


Siblings, per 1911 census posted by Shirley:


NELSON, JOSEPH mmn SNOWDON
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in ALNWICK Volume 10B Page 432


NELSON, THOMAS WILLIAM mmn SNOWDON
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in ALNWICK Volume 10B Page 398

NELSON, JAMES mmn SNOWDON
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 197

NELSON, STEPHEN mmn SNOWDON
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 208

NELSON, ESTHER ARCHER mmn SNOWDON
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 34

NELSON, GEORGINA BEATRICE BAINBRIDGE mmn SNOWDON
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 75



The John George Nelson who died in 1892 (as posted by Malyon) is clearly not the same child - though I don't see his birth.

I posted a lot of info immediately following the poster's request but it was (rather pointedly I thought) ignored, so I deleted

Tthere are 7 children on the 1911 census...........and , as I said previously, themother says one of eight born in the marriage has died, although the father says 7 born, 6 living, which raises other questions. There is clearly a good deal of confusion

Name: James Nelson
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1895
Death Date: 26 Apr 1917
Cemetery: Mercantile Marine Mem. Part VI
Burial Country: England
Regiment: Mercantile Marines
Ship Name: Caithness
Region or Memorial: Memorial Register
Father: Stephen Nelson
Mother: Caroline Nelson