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Barbara
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28 Jan 2021 12:23 |
Hello, I've only just seen all these messages, so thank you! What I'd really like to know, is whereabouts in Ireland was Mary Ann Honey born? Her birth year is definitely 1815, and yes she married George Peek and later Thomas Johnson. Mary Ann Honey is my great, great, great grandmother, so I would love to find out my Irish ancestry. Any help would be very much appreciated.
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ErikaH
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28 Jan 2021 12:45 |
Irish records are virtually non-existent for the period in which you are interested, BUT, a possible marriage for her parents was posted for you!
You edited your original post after replies had been posted......
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Barbara
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27 Jul 2021 16:43 |
Hi everyone, I'm so sorry, I had no ideas I had all these replies! GR doesn't seem to give any notifications, or I didn't receive them. I know that Mary Ann Honey was definitely born in 1815, in Ireland, and that she married George Peek in 1831, in London, when she was 16 and he was 31. George died when he was about 47, and yes she remarried Johnson when she was in her 50s, and Johnson was about 17 years her junior, and they lived in Surrey until her death. I know her father was Thomas Honey, and her mother's name was Elizabeth, no idea of her surname. A couple of theories... Was Mary Ann born illegitimately, and taken away and put in one of the Laundry Houses or Magdalena Homes? Did Elizabeth perhaps die in childbirth, and Mary Ann taken into a home? I would love to know whereabouts in Ireland she came from, I haven't found any information regarding any siblings. Did George Peek perhaps go to Ireland on business, and take Mary Ann out of the home for a better life married to him? She was so young, and George so much older than her. And I can't imagine her travelling to London by herself at such a young age. It's such a mystery, and I would love to find out more about her and the line of ancestry in Ireland. I have googled so many times, but can't seem to find out anything more.
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nameslessone
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27 Jul 2021 16:52 |
Genes do not notify you if anyone adds to a post.
Why do you think Mary Ann was illegitimate and either born in or sent to one of the Laundries.? You seem to have the names of both her parents which would suppose she was, in fact, legitimate. As Erika says, records for that period are very difficult especially as you have no idea wherein Ireland she came from.
Have you tried Family Search, using the information you have. It would be a good start.
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nameslessone
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27 Jul 2021 17:32 |
Thank you for your pm. As it don’t contain anything new it would have been better put on here.
Just because you ca’t find the information does Not mean that she could be in some sort of institution. You have her parents names and Mary Ann uses her fathers surname. I assume her fathers name came from her marriage record, but where did you get her mothers name?
Mary Ann could have come over to England at any time following her birth, even with her parents. She may have come over to seek work - girls went into service at what seems a very young age.
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Barbara
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4 Aug 2021 23:10 |
Thank you to everyone for all the information, most of it is correct. I would just love to find out about Mary Ann Honey's family.. whether she had aunties, uncles, grandparents, siblings, and whereabouts in Ireland she came from. I have managed to find out a lot of information on my French ancestry, that was a lot easier than the Irish side. This is the missing jigsaw, it's so frustrating...
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Barbara
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18 Mar 2022 16:12 |
Hi everyone, Again, apologies for not replying, I forget to check :-0 I have a little bit more information, which might be useful; Mary Ann Honey's father was Thomas Honey, and he married Jane Wilkinson in County Cork, Ireland in 1812. I'd like to found out if there were any siblings..
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Barbara
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18 Mar 2022 16:15 |
Thomas Honey married in the parish of Diocese Cloyne, County Cork..
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nameslessone
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18 Mar 2022 16:32 |
Try the free Family Search site. Try Googling for the Irish sites - there are several of them.
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Barbara
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18 Mar 2022 16:49 |
Hello, I'm trying to find something through Google, but these 'Free' sites are only free to register, it seems. Once registered a subscription is required (Irish Roots). :-(
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ArgyllGran
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18 Mar 2022 17:21 |
irishgenealogy.ie is free - but as has been said several times, Irish records are extremely patchy.
That site does not have the 1812 marriage you mention, but it is on Ancestry:
Thomas Honey in the Ireland, Casey Collection Indexes, 1545-1960 Name: Thomas Honey Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 1812 Marriage Place: Ireland Spouse: Jane Wilkinson.
You may just have to accept that there are no records to be found. We all have dead ends somewhere in our trees, Irish or otherwise.
You've given two conflicting theories about Mary Ann's parents.
"I know her father was Thomas Honey, and her mother's name was Elizabeth, no idea of her surname."
"Mary Ann Honey's father was Thomas Honey, and he married Jane Wilkinson in County Cork, Ireland in 1812."
Her father's name is on her marriage cert. How do you know her mother's name?
How do you know that the man who married in 1812 is the correct Thomas Honey?
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Kucinta
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18 Mar 2022 18:49 |
The 1812 marriage to Jane Wilkinson was posted, speculatively, by safc at the bottom of page 1 of this thread.
Perhaps that led Barbara to abandon 'Elizabeth ' ?
As AG says, how to you actually know that Thomas Honey who fathered Mary Ann, is the same man who married Jane Wilkinson in 1812, when you previously believed, for some reason, Mary Ann's mother was named Elizabeth?
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