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The 1812 marriage to Jane Wilkinson was posted, speculatively, by safc at the bottom of page 1 of this thread.

Perhaps that led Barbara to abandon 'Elizabeth ' ?

As AG says, how to you actually know that Thomas Honey who fathered Mary Ann, is the same man who married Jane Wilkinson in 1812, when you previously believed, for some reason, Mary Ann's mother was named Elizabeth?

irishgenealogy.ie is free - but as has been said several times, Irish records are extremely patchy.

That site does not have the 1812 marriage you mention, but it is on Ancestry:

Thomas Honey
in the Ireland, Casey Collection Indexes, 1545-1960
Name: Thomas Honey
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 1812
Marriage Place: Ireland
Spouse: Jane Wilkinson.


You may just have to accept that there are no records to be found.
We all have dead ends somewhere in our trees, Irish or otherwise.

You've given two conflicting theories about Mary Ann's parents.

"I know her father was Thomas Honey, and her mother's name was Elizabeth, no idea of her surname."

"Mary Ann Honey's father was Thomas Honey, and he married Jane Wilkinson in County Cork, Ireland in 1812."

Her father's name is on her marriage cert. How do you know her mother's name?

How do you know that the man who married in 1812 is the correct Thomas Honey?

Hello,
I'm trying to find something through Google, but these 'Free' sites are only free to register, it seems.
Once registered a subscription is required (Irish Roots). :-(

Try the free Family Search site. Try Googling for the Irish sites - there are several of them.

Thomas Honey married in the parish of Diocese Cloyne, County Cork..

Hi everyone,
Again, apologies for not replying, I forget to check :-0
I have a little bit more information, which might be useful;
Mary Ann Honey's father was Thomas Honey, and he married Jane Wilkinson in County Cork, Ireland in 1812.
I'd like to found out if there were any siblings..

Thank you to everyone for all the information, most of it is correct.
I would just love to find out about Mary Ann Honey's family.. whether she had aunties, uncles, grandparents, siblings, and whereabouts in Ireland she came from.
I have managed to find out a lot of information on my French ancestry, that was a lot easier than the Irish side.
This is the missing jigsaw, it's so frustrating...

Thank you for your pm. As it don’t contain anything new it would have been better put on here.

Just because you ca’t find the information does Not mean that she could be in some sort of institution. You have her parents names and Mary Ann uses her fathers surname. I assume her fathers name came from her marriage record, but where did you get her mothers name?

Mary Ann could have come over to England at any time following her birth, even with her parents. She may have come over to seek work - girls went into service at what seems a very young age.

Genes do not notify you if anyone adds to a post.

Why do you think Mary Ann was illegitimate and either born in or sent to one of the Laundries.? You seem to have the names of both her parents which would suppose she was, in fact, legitimate. As Erika says, records for that period are very difficult especially as you have no idea wherein Ireland she came from.

Have you tried Family Search, using the information you have. It would be a good start.

Hi everyone,
I'm so sorry, I had no ideas I had all these replies!
GR doesn't seem to give any notifications, or I didn't receive them.
I know that Mary Ann Honey was definitely born in 1815, in Ireland, and that she married George Peek in 1831, in London, when she was 16 and he was 31.
George died when he was about 47, and yes she remarried Johnson when she was in her 50s, and Johnson was about 17 years her junior, and they lived in Surrey until her death.
I know her father was Thomas Honey, and her mother's name was Elizabeth, no idea of her surname.
A couple of theories...
Was Mary Ann born illegitimately, and taken away and put in one of the Laundry Houses or Magdalena Homes?
Did Elizabeth perhaps die in childbirth, and Mary Ann taken into a home?
I would love to know whereabouts in Ireland she came from, I haven't found any information regarding any siblings.
Did George Peek perhaps go to Ireland on business, and take Mary Ann out of the home for a better life married to him?
She was so young, and George so much older than her.
And I can't imagine her travelling to London by herself at such a young age.
It's such a mystery, and I would love to find out more about her and the line of ancestry in Ireland.
I have googled so many times, but can't seem to find out anything more.

Irish records are virtually non-existent for the period in which you are interested, BUT, a possible marriage for her parents was posted for you!

You edited your original post after replies had been posted......

Hello,
I've only just seen all these messages, so thank you!
What I'd really like to know, is whereabouts in Ireland was Mary Ann Honey born?
Her birth year is definitely 1815, and yes she married George Peek and later Thomas Johnson.
Mary Ann Honey is my great, great, great grandmother, so I would love to find out my Irish ancestry.
Any help would be very much appreciated.

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Record Transcription:
Irish Parish Register Marriages, Ffolliott Collection

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Honey
Role Groom
Marriage year 1812
Marriage date 03 Feb 1812
Parish -
Diocese Cloyne
Spouse's first name(s) Jane
Spouse's last name Wilkinson
County Cork
Country Ireland
Project ffolliott Parish Registers
Folder Marriage index, 1600-1845
Event type Marriages
Record set Irish Parish Register Marriages, Ffolliott Collection
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Ireland

Name: Mary Ann Peek
Gender: Female
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 12 Oct 1862
Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Spouse: Thomas Johnson
Register Type: Parish Register

a widow

Aha!
Father's name Thomas. Deceased, mercantile clerk:


Mary Ann Peak
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Mary Ann Peak - widow
[Mary Ann Honey]
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 17 Nov 1862
Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: Thomas Honey
Spouse: Thomas Johnson
Register Type: Parish Register


Banns posted earlier by ErikaH, but this is the actual marriage - as also in my previous post.

The marriage cert will tell you her father's name - if known:
:

Thomas Johnson
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Thomas Johnson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 16 Nov 1862
Marriage Place: St. Mary'S, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Spouse: Mary Ann Peck
FHL Film Number: 1041669
Reference ID: item 1 p 155


Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
Johnson Thomas Lambeth 1d 586
Peak Mary Ann Lambeth 1d 586

1881:

Mary Ann Johnson
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Johnson
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Thomas Johnson
Gender: Female
Where born: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Heston
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Lampton Parade
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Labourer Wife
Registration District: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Piece: 1339
Folio: 37
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Johnson 49
Mary Ann Johnson 66
Ellen Peek 22 - grand-daughter
William Peek 46 - nephew
Annie Robinson 11 - visitor
Ellen Janitt 6 - visitor

Possible death ??

Deaths Jun 1885 (>99%)
JOHNSON Mary Ann 72 Brentford 3a 32

However, that's no help finding her birth/parents/ etc.

This is Mary Ann nee Honey in 1871:

Marya Johnson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Marya Johnson
[Mary Ann Johnson]
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: 1814
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Heston
Ecclesiastical parish: Church Heston
Town: Lampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: Brentford
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household Schedule Number: 55
Piece: 1313
Folio: 91
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Marya Johnson 57 [ Mary A on image ]
Ellen Pick 12 - grand-daughter


Thomas is also with them, though the Ancestry transcription misses him out.

Thomas Johnson, head, married, 40, brick builder (?), Drayton, Middlesex.

1851 confims birth place

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

North Hyde, Heston, Brentford, Middlesex, England
lationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Ann Peek Head Widow Female 38 1813 Grocer Ireland
John Peek Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Clerk Of Brickfield Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Ann Peek Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 - Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Martha Peek Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar Lampton, Middlesex, England
George Peek Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Northfleet, Kent, England
Alice Peek Daughter - Female 4 1847 Scholar Northfleet, Kent, England
Elizabeth Peek Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Northfleet, Kent, England
Emma Peek Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Northfleet, Kent, England
Sarah Groves Visitor Widow Female 39 1812 Laundress Brentford, Middlesex, England
Eliza Groves Visitor - Female 16 1835 Servant Brentford, Middlesex, England
William Hereward Lodger Unmarried Male 17 1834 Engine Driver Woodstock, Oxon, England

Name: George Peek
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 4 Feb 1848
Burial Place: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
FHL Film Number: 585451
Reference ID: 202