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Looking for baptism record, Phyllis Irene Martin

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:20

Private
MARTIN, A
Service Number 13276
Died 21/08/1915
4th Bn.
South Wales Borderers
7TH FIELD AMBULANCE CEMETERY
IV. C. 10.

1881
16, Bargoed Tce, Gelligaer, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

Arthur Martin Head Married Male 33 1848 Coal Miner Towednack, Cornwall, England
Elizabeth Martin Wife Married Female 31 1850 - Towednack, Cornwall, England
Hannah M Martin Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Glamorganshire, Wales
Isaac Martin Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Leadgate, Durham, England
James Martin Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Durham, England
Arthur Martin Son Single Male 1 1880 - Hindley, Somerset, England********another version!

Definitely Hindley,

MARTIN, ARTHUR MARTIN
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 84

MARTIN, ISAAC MARTIN
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 425

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2020 14:21

That 1911 census is correct. Arthur Martin was my Grandmothers brother (Charity Potter nee Martin)

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2020 14:22

Thanks ErikaH ive made those spelling corrections

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:24

1901 - with wife and children


3, Temperance Place, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales
Stephen Martin Head Married Male 40 1861 Coal Miner Below Ground St Ives, Cornwall, England
Mary Ann Martin Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, Wales
Margaret Martin Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Glamorganshire, Wales
Mary Martin Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales
Arthur Martin Visitor Married Male 22 1879 Coal Miner Below Ground Wigan, Lancashire, England
Constance Martin Visitor Married Female 21 1880 - Tylorstown, Glamorganshire, Wales
Beatrice May Martin Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Tylorstown, Glamorganshire, Wales
Arthur George Martin Son - Male 0 1901 - Tylorstown, Glamorganshire, Wales
Cornelius Cochlin Boarder Single Male 42 1859 Coal Miner Below Ground Cwmtillery, Monmouthshire, Wales

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:28

MARTIN, ARTHUR GEORGE DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 637

MARTIN, BEATRICE MAY DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 572

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
DAVIES Constance Pontypridd 11a 772
MARTIN Arthur Pontypridd 11a 772

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:30

????

Name: Beatrice May Martin
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Tylorstown Rhonda, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Gelligaer
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 17 School Street Pontlottyn Nr Cardiff
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Servant
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Registration District Number: 590
Sub-registration district: Gelligaer
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Household schedule number: 267
Piece: 32403
Household Members:
Name Age
William James 47
Eliza James 62
James Davies 47
John William Stewart 43
Herbert Davies 19
Beatrice May Martin 13


Name: Beatrice May Martin
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1899
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1980
Registration district: Kerrier
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 21
Page: 0240

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2020 14:31

Also correct, the Martins started out in Cornwall.

Also Arthur did marry Constance.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:32

Name: Arthur George Martin
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 347

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:35

Name: Constance Martin
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Tylorstown, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Rhondda
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 17 Furnace Rd Pontygwaith Glammorganshire
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 12
Estimated Marriage Year: 1899
Occupation: House Work
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration district: Llanwonno
ED, institution, or vessel: 03
Household schedule number: 64
Piece: 32249
Household Members:
Name Age
Constance Martin 30
Annie Maud Martin 9
Edith May Balsom 5/12
Edward J Balsom 31


MARTIN, ANNIE MAUD DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 623

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2020 14:36

I am beginning to think that Phyllis Irene's birth was kept a secret.

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2020 14:41

In my tree I have Arthur Martin and Constance Davies married 1898.
Pontypridd 11a 772

Cant find a death record for Constance.

Assuming she died before Phyllis Irene was born.

Ive never looked into this part before.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:42

REARDON, CHARLOTTE ANN BOND
GRO Reference: 1914 D Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 1544

Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Reardon William J Bond Merthyr T. 11a 1204
Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
REARDON Grace M Bond Merthyr T 11a 1498

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:48

Name: Jeremiah Reardon
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 27 Feb 1887
Residence Year: 1939**************
Address: 34 Greenmoor Rd
Residence Place: Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Restaurant Cook
Schedule Number: 203
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QECV
Registration district: 388-1
Inferred Spouse: Ann C Reardon
Inferred Children: Tim Reardon
Name
Jeremiah Reardon
Ann C Reardon
Tim Reardon

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:54

As I'd thought - having seen 1911 census

Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
Balsom Edward J Martin Pontypridd 11a 968
Martin Constance Balsom Pontypridd 11a 968

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Balsom Agnes C Davies Pontypridd 11a 1458
Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
Balsom Clifford Davies Pontypridd 11a 1332
Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Balsom Lilian Davies Pontypridd 11a 1456
Births Dec 1927 (>99%)
Balsom Margaret H Davies Pontypridd 11a 955

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2020 14:57

That would explain a few things then.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 14:59

Name: Edward J Balsom
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1878
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 2.
Residence Place: Glyncorrwg, Glamorganshire, Wales
Occupation: Colliery Repairer
Schedule Number: 357
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: XJLE
Registration district: 592-3
Inferred Spouse: Constace Balsom
Household Members:
Name
Edward J Balsom
Constace Balsom
4 closed records

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2020 14:59

I would never have found her death looking for Constance Martin.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 15:03

Obviously ;-)


Deaths Sep 1969 (>99%)
BALSOM Constance 7No1881 Aylesbury 6a 761

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2020 15:08

If the person registering Phyllis's death knew where the woman was born, the info will be on her death cert

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2020 15:08

I wish I could borrow your brain sometimes. LOL>

So the facts are: Arthur 1879 to 1915

He married Constance 1898.

Whilst he was married to Constance he fathered Phyllis.

No wonder she was quick to re marry, aftyer he died.