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Smith/Heslop Marriage Cert

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Joanie

Joanie Report 12 Jun 2020 09:32

My Aunt said she died when Teresa b.March 1938 was age 2/3 and they think in childbirth I know in 1939 they were in Rochdale Lancashire.

I have managed to get a copy of Margaret Ellen Smith's birth cert 2/4/1937 Chorley Lancs and Lilian still put an X as signature and William was still a general Hawker.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 12 Jun 2020 10:26

Deaths Mar 1944

Smith
Lilian
44
Bury
8c
507.

a possible ?

about 5 miles from Rochdale.

birth est abt 1899/1900.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2020 10:32

IF the DOB given in 1939 is accurate - but may well not be - there's no death of a Lilian/Lillian Smith anywhere in Lancashire 1939-42 of an age which would fit that.

They did travel around a lot, so could have been anywhere after 1939.

Deaths (not in Lancs) which could fit:

Deaths Sep 1940 (>99%)
Smith Lilian 41 Wednesbury 6b 1350

Deaths Jun 1941 (>99%)
Smith Lilian 41 Staincross 9c 538


Or in Lancs, but if later than thought:

Deaths Mar 1944 (>99%)
Smith Lilian 44 Bury 8c 507

However, there's no matching birth of a child, if she did die in childbirth - though of course she may have died soon after but perhaps not in the same place or quarter.

A child registered initially as Betty and then altered to Sheila E was born in Cumberland (Border RD) in Dec qr 1943.
No idea if relevant. No immediately obvious marriage of parents - at least not in Cumberland.

Joanie

Joanie Report 12 Jun 2020 13:08

Thank you Folks. Yes they travelled around lots mainly Lancashire Yorkshire and Northumberland. The Bury one looks promising and i will decided over weekend if i will chance another £10 on a cert, have bought three on the family and one was right up to now.....Joanie x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2020 14:28

You can get a PDF copy for £7.

Paper copy is £11.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 12 Jun 2020 14:40

Joanie,
Can i ask what made you discard the 1925 marriage , as not being them

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2020 14:59

Probably this, Elizabeth


Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
HESLOP Elizabeth Etheline Sunderland 10a 641


1911
Thomas Patterson Heslop Head Married Male 50 1861 Shipbuilders Stocktaker And Storekeeper Durham Mkwth
Etheline Heslop Wife Married Female 49 1862 - Durham Pallion Sland
George Heslop Son Single Male 26 1885 Plater Ship Durham Pallion Sland
John Henry Heslop Son Single Male 20 1891 Apprentice Joiner Ship Durham Pallion Sland
Elizabeth Etheline Heslop Daughter - Female 9 1902 - Durham Pallion Sland


1939

William H Smith 11 Dec 1899 Male Corporation Ambulance Driver Married 217 1
Elizabeth E Smith 10 Sep 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 217 2