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Sylann
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1 Jun 2020 16:03 |
I have a marriage that I think is mine but I would like to know for sure I've looked at the sites that I know of but can't see any details it could be a registry office marriage But I have in my notes April 1903 at St Barnabas Openshaw Manchester I would be grateful if some one can find the info I need
I know if it's a registry marriage you don't get the info
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ErikaH
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1 Jun 2020 16:23 |
Names would enable us to look
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Sylann
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1 Jun 2020 16:31 |
Sorry thought I'd put the names in !!
John Hornby and Rosina Stone
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Jun 2020 16:36 |
Have you looked on FreeBMD it should be there
Won’t show details but will show if it occurred
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Jun 2020 16:38 |
From FMP
JOHN Last name HORNBY Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1903 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™ JOHN HORNBY married one of these people Rosina Stone, District Chorlton District number - County Lancashire Country England Volume 8C Volume as transcribed 8C Page number 1518 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce Collections from Great Britain, England © brightsolid online publishing ltd
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ErikaH
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1 Jun 2020 16:38 |
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HORNBY John STONE Rosina 1903 Openshaw, St. Barnabas Archives+, Manchester Central Library 107/5/227
Nothing else online
You will have to apply for the cert
Why are you unsure as to whether they are 'yours'? You must have worked back to them somehow
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Sylann
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1 Jun 2020 16:46 |
Thank you for checking I thought with it being St Barnabas it was a church wedding As you say I'll have to buy the certificate
I have a few John Hornby's and with out the fathers name I can't prove it's mine He is my grand dads brother so not really had to get back to him but I wanted to see if he got married or had a family I've got info on John And Rosina but just got that daubt he isn't my John
Thank you
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1 Jun 2020 16:47 |
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Name: John Hornby Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 13 Feb 1882 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 15, Orrell St. Residence Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Occupation: Forge Furnaceman Heavy Work Schedule Number: 35 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: NKUL Registration district: 464-4 Inferred Spouse: Rosina Hornby Inferred Children: Doris Hornby Household Members: Name John Hornby Rosina Hornby Doris Hornby
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Sylann
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1 Jun 2020 16:50 |
Thank you
I'll get the certificate and then I'll know for sure
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1 Jun 2020 16:53 |
HORNBY, JOHN (MMN) WOODHOUSE GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 240
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1 Jun 2020 16:54 |
As he was your grandfather's brother, you must know his year and place of birth and his MMN
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1 Jun 2020 16:57 |
First name(s) Rosina Last name Hornby Birth year 1884 Admission/Discharge year 1903-05 Admission year 1903 Admission day 19 Admission month Aug Previous residence Openshaw Place Manchester Register book year 1862 Locality of record Manchester Withington Workhouse Records title Creed Register Date range 1862 - 1905 Film - Record set Manchester Workhouse Registers 1800-1911 Category Institutions & organisations
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2 Orr Street Openshaw Manchester, South Manchester, Lancashire, England William Stone Head Widower Male 64 1847 Labourer For Bricklayer Studem Bedford Thomas Stone Son Single Male 23 1888 Machine Slotter Bedfordshire Bedford William Stone Son Single Male 25 1886 Bricklayers Labourer Bedfordshire Bedford John Hornby Son In Law Married Male 30 1881 Blacksmiths Stricker Gorton Manchester Rosina Hornby Daughter Married Female 27 1884 - Bedfordshire Bedford Lily Hornby Granddaughter - Female 2 1909 - Openshaw Manchester John Hornby Grandson - Male 4 1907 - Openshaw Manchester
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Sylann
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1 Jun 2020 17:24 |
Yes I do know all that but their are a few John Hornby's in Manchester so although I'm hoping it's my John I would just like to make sure, Then I can go into it a bit more Like Rosins 1911 census the one I've got she is with her Dad Brothers And John but she is down as being born in Bedfordshire also her brothers yet the only births I can find are for Manchester mother's maiden name Stone and it has British subjects by parentage??
So before I try and find out what that is about ? I do feel like saying sod it and carrying on with them!! You are quick you've put 1911 census down Also Rosina was down as Rose on GRO index
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1 Jun 2020 17:35 |
Don't know exactly what you are looking for, but Rosina's parents were William & Elizabeth
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ErikaH
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1 Jun 2020 17:43 |
So, what was the MMN for 'your' Hornbys??????
You MUST know that - AND when John was born
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1 Jun 2020 17:44 |
Elizabeth
The poster is trying to determine whether the GROOM is related to her
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1 Jun 2020 17:50 |
HORNBY, LILIAN STONE GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 420
HORNBY, JOHN STONE GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 738 Births Jun 1912 (>99%) Hornby Thomas Stone Chorlton 8c 1477
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Sylann
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1 Jun 2020 17:59 |
Right I'm getting all confused John's 1882 parents are Foster and Martha Rosina 's parents William and Elizabeth Thorn
the birth I looked up are Rosina and her brother mothers maiden name Thorn ? I came to this conclusion because the 3 children were their with the same mother in Manchester and I couldn't find them in Bedfordshire.
Just seen another tree with the same marriage for John And Rosina but John's father is John mother Catherine so this is why I need the marriage certificate
Sorry for confusing you
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ErikaH
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1 Jun 2020 18:48 |
Sorry, but you’ve completely lost me
and you haven’t answered my question about John Hornby’s MMN so I’ll leave you to it
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Sylann
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2 Jun 2020 11:18 |
ErikaH
Sorry thought I'd explained I'll try
My John Hornby 1882 Manchester parents Foster Hornby and Martha Woodhouse they had several children I found this marriage for John and Rosina Stone but as their are a few John Hornby's I wanted to check it was the right one but not being able to check the details of the marriage it was possibly a registry marriage.
So all the details for John & Rosina that you got were correct When I saw another tree on ancestry with the same couple John & Rosina but with different parents it made me think I hadn't got the right family but looking at this other tree I think she has got a few things wrong
So I'm going with it's the right marriage and working from their The births you got for the John & Rosina -Lillian John Thomas are what I've got plus 1939 register Doris
The births for Rosina and her brothers Thomas and William on 1911 census it had they were born in Bedford but I couldn't find them in Bedford I found the same names and Dof b in Manchester mothers maiden name Thorn ?so I took it that that was them?? And 1911 census it has British subjects through parentage ?? not sure what that mean
Hope you can understand a bit more on what I was after and thank you for all your input even if I lost it
Sylvia
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