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Hi im trying to find my scottish ancestors and have hit a brick wall, ive got as far as a

Angus McArthur d.o.b 1819 in Cambletown, Scotland who was married to a Margaret McKenzie d.o.b 1820 also born in Cambletown, Scotland but cant seem to find anything before, any information would be great,

Many Thanks in advance

For info -

Is this your family - Angus is a Publican. He and Margaret born Scotland, children in Southampton (from original)

Record Transcription:
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cross Street (Cross Keys), St Mary, Southampton, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Angus McArthar Head - Male 52 1819 - Scotland
Margaret McArthar Wife - Female 51 1820 - Scotland
Angus McArthar Son - Male 17 1854 - Hampshire, England
Kate McArthar Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Hampshire, England
Margaret McArthar Daughter - Female 13 1858 Hampshire -

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Record Transcription:
Scotland Marriages 1561-1910

Angus McArthur

First name(s) Angus
Last name McArthur
Marriage year 1854
Marriage date 10 Feb 1854
Marriage place Uig,Ross And Cromarty,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Peggy
Spouse's last name McKenzie
Place Uig
County Ross and Cromarty
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain

Welcome to the boards, Neil.

This is the only birth of an Angus McArthur/MacArthur in Campbeltown (note spelling) around 1819:

MACARTHUR
ANGUS
Parents: DONALD MACARTHUR/CATHARINE MACILVOIL
M
30/03/1815
507/
40 427
Campbeltown


and this is the nearest Margaret McKenzie birth to 1820:

MACKENZIE
MARGARET
JOHN MACKENZIE/JEAN MILLOY
F
28/07/1818
507/
40 478
Campbeltown

Of course I have no idea if either of them is who you're looking for.


I don't see a marriage in Campbeltown for a couple of those names. Have you found their marriage?

Census Year County Place Civil Parish Ecclesiastical Parish Piece Enumeration District Folio Page Schedule House Number House or Street Name
1861 Hampshire (HAM) Southampton St Mary St Marys St James 676 30 118 11 48 3 Cross
Surname Forenames Relationship Marital Status Sex Age Occupation Birth County Birth Place Disability Notes
MCARTHUR Angus Head M M 43 Fireman ARL Campbeltown
MCARTHUR Margaret Wife M F 42 - ARL Campbeltown
ARTHUR Alexander Son U M 16 Labourer ARL Campbeltown
ARTHUR Archabolt Son U M 14 Labourer ARL Campbeltown
ARTHUR Daniel Son - M 11 - ARL Campbeltown
ARTHUR John Son - M 10 - ARL Campbeltown
ARTHUR Anges Son - M 7 - HAM Southampton
ARTHUR Catherine Dau - F 4 - HAM Southampton
ARTHUR Margareta Dau - F 2 - HAM Southampton
ADAMS George Lodger U M 17

Which site have you been using?

Re the marriage posted by safc -
if they both belonged to Campbeltown, it seems unlikely that they would have married on the Isles of Skye.

Where did you find the info that they were from Campbeltown?

births of the children in the 1871 census posted above:

MCARTHUR, CATHERINE mms MCLAREN
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 33

MCARTHUR, ANGUS MCLAREN
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 23

all Scottish births said to be in Campbeltown

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
3, Cross Street, St Marys, Southampton, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Agnes Mc Arthur Head Married Male 48 1813 Fireman Scotland
Margaret Mc Arthur Wife Married Female 42 1819 - Scotland
Alexander Mc Arthur Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Labourer Scotland
Archibald Mc Arthur Son Unmarried Male 14 1847 Labourer Scotland
Daniel Mc Arthur Son - Male 11 1850 - Scotland
John Mc Arthur Son - Male 10 1851 - Scotland
Agnes Mc Arthur Son - Male 7 1854 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Catherine Mc Arthur Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Margareta Mc Arthur Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
George Adams Lodger Unmarried Male 17 1844 - Southampton, Hampshire, England

OK, looking at the 1861 census posted above, here's the birth of the daughter Margaret:

MCARTHUR, MARGARET mms MCCLELLAN
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 10


If that's the case, then McLaren as mms for the other children's births could be a mis-reading of the handwriting for McClellan or similar name.

Therefore this could be the parents' marriage:

MCARTHUR
ANGUS
MARGARET MCLELLAN/
25/01/1842
507/
60 379
Campbeltown

?????

Was there more than one Angus of marrying age in Campbeltown as the Mother here is McLellen ??

Baptism -

MCARTHUR JOHN
ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN
M
09/08/1850
507/
70 373
Campbeltown

Birth of the son Archibald in 1861 census:

MCARTHUR
ARCHIBALD
ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN
M
28/10/1846
507/
70 312
Campbeltown

We need info from Neil as to how he worked back to the people he names

Son Alexander:

MCARTHUR
ALEXANDER
ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN FR231 (FR231)
M
27/02/1845
531/
20 53
Saddell and Skipness [near Campbeltown ]


This is probably "Daniel" in 1861 census:

MCARTHUR
DONALD
ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN
M
04/12/1848
507/
70 345
Campbeltown


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Unfortunately, the marriage record, which is just a parish record, and not a marriage cert as such, will not give you the names of the parents of either Angus or Margaret.

Record Transcription:
Scotland Marriages 1561-1910

First name(s) Angus
Last name McArthur
Marriage year 1842
Marriage date 25 Jan 1842
Marriage place Campbeltown,Argyll,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Margaret
Spouse's last name McLellan
Place Campbeltown
County Argyllshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Longrow East Side, Campbeltown, Cantyre, Argyllshire, Scotland
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Angus McArthur Head Married Male 35 1816 Lab (Agr) Argyllshire, Scotland
Margaret McArthur Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Alex McArthur Son - Male 6 1845 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Archibald McArthur Son - Male 4 1847 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Donald McArthur Son - Male 2 1849 - Argyllshire, Scotland
John McArthur Son - Male 0 1851 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Margaret Mathieson Visitor Unmarried Female 64 1787 Seamstress Killean, Argyllshire, Scotland

PM from Neil - have asked him to reply on thread

Yes it is the right McArthurs, i think he was also a fireman on one census, trying to find out about there scottish past if thats possible.

Thank you so far everyone,

Ive spoken to a family member who had also done a family tree a while ago and they have told me that Angus McArthur was married to a Margaret McKenzie both from Cambletown, Scotland, as we know they did move away to Southampton as this is where all my family live now but it would be nice to find out a bit more about there life and family in Scotland,

I wont give up
Stay safe everyone

Margaret's surname would appear to be McLellan NOT McKenzie. Above replies which you confirm are correct family show Angus as a Fireman 1861 and 1871. The children's births all show her surname as McLellen too

Ive havnt found any marriage details as of yet, so not sure if they were married in Cambeltown or not but i do know that they moved to Southampton between 1851 and 1854

Record Transcription:
Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950

First name(s) Heneriatta
Last name Mac Aurther
Gender Female
Birth year 1861
Birth place Uig,Ross and Cromarty,Scotland
Baptism year -
Baptism date -
Baptism place -
Father's first name(s) Angus
Father's last name Mac Aurther
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Mother's last name Mac Kenzie
Place Uig
County Ross and Cromarty
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain