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Help please finding my Scottish ancestors

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2020 10:01

safc - the possible birth of Angus already posted on page 1.

As a long shot, bearing in mind the fluid nature of spelling of names at that time, this is the nearest possible (but BIG maybe!) marriage for Angus's parents:

MACARTHUR
DONALD
CATHARINE BELL/
20/11/1810
507/
50 91
Campbeltown

But there's no way of knowing if that's the correct marriage or not.

safc

safc Report 31 Mar 2020 03:17

from scotlands people site its pay per view
you need to register and buy credits

MACARTHUR

ANGUS

DONALD MACARTHUR/CATHARINE MACILVOIL

M

30/03/1815

507/

40 427

Campbeltown

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MACLELLAN

MARGARET

JOHN MACLELLAN/ANNE CURRIE

F

10/04/1817

507/

40 460

Campbeltown

safc

safc Report 31 Mar 2020 03:15

Record Transcription:
Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950

First name(s) Angus
Last name Macarthur
Gender Male
Birth year 1815
Birth place -
Baptism year 1815
Baptism date 30 Mar 1815
Baptism place CAMPBELTOWN,ARGYLL,SCOTLAND
Father's first name(s) Donald
Father's last name Macarthur
Mother's first name(s) Catharine
Mother's last name Macilvoil
Place Campbeltown
County Argyllshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain

Neil

Neil Report 31 Mar 2020 00:55

It looks like Margaret was a McLellan, so the family tree i was given was wrong, thanks again for all your help, now trying to find the parents of Margaret and Angus, this might take me a while, still i have time now im at home most of the time,

Thanks

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2020 21:23

Just to reiterate -

Don't be confused by the McArthur family in Uig, whose records safc has posted because you said Margaret's name was McKenzie. That's a red herring - ignore!

Margaret was a McLellan/McClellan, either mistranscribed or misheard as McLaren on a couple of records, as already explained.

Neil

Neil Report 30 Mar 2020 20:32

It is the right family as Angus and Margarets daughter Catherine was married to my GG Grandfather Julius Clarke 1858 and they lived in Southampton

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Mar 2020 19:25

Look carefully at the info posted for you - if you're sure they are the Southampton family

son John born 9/8/1850 in Campbeltown

Family in Southampton by time of 1851 census

Mothers maiden name shows as McLellan on Scottish births and also daughter Margaret in Southampton RD with the McLaren ones probably due to accent or poor handwriting

A marriage for Angus McArthur to a Margaret MCLELLAN January 1842 in Campbeltown

? First child recorded - if Scottish naming pattern was followed he would be named for his Paternal Grandfather. AG posted a possible birth for Angus Page 1 - with parents Donald McArthur and Catherine McAvoil

MCARTHUR
DONALD
ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN FR230 (FR230)
M
09/11/1844
531/
20 51
Saddell and Skipness

safc

safc Report 30 Mar 2020 19:24

Record Transcription:
Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950

First name(s) Donald
Last name Mac Aurther
Gender Male
Birth year 1857
Birth place Uig,Ross and Cromarty,Scotland
Baptism year -
Baptism date -
Baptism place -
Father's first name(s) Angus
Father's last name Mac Aurther
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Mother's last name Mac Kenzie
Place Uig
County Ross and Cromarty
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain

safc

safc Report 30 Mar 2020 19:20

this could be angus and peggy mckenzie


Record Transcription:
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Private House, Uig, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland


Henrietta McArthur
Census Record
Ross and Cromarty, Scotland
Year of census: 1881
Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Angus McArthur Head Married Male 42 1829 Fisherman Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Margaret McArthur Wife Married Female 36 1835 Fisherman's Wife Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Ann McArthur Mother Widow Female 85 1786 Tenant's W Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Catherine McArthur Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1855 General Servt Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Donald McArthur Son - Male 13 1858 - Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Mary Ann McArthur Daughter - Female 9 1862 Scholar Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Henrietta McArthur Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Chirsty McArthur Daughter - Female 5 1866 Scholar Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
Kennina McArthur Daughter - Female 2 1869

safc

safc Report 30 Mar 2020 19:18

Record Transcription:
Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950

First name(s) Heneriatta
Last name Mac Aurther
Gender Female
Birth year 1861
Birth place Uig,Ross and Cromarty,Scotland
Baptism year -
Baptism date -
Baptism place -
Father's first name(s) Angus
Father's last name Mac Aurther
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Mother's last name Mac Kenzie
Place Uig
County Ross and Cromarty
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain

Neil

Neil Report 30 Mar 2020 19:08

Ive havnt found any marriage details as of yet, so not sure if they were married in Cambeltown or not but i do know that they moved to Southampton between 1851 and 1854

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Mar 2020 19:00

Margaret's surname would appear to be McLellan NOT McKenzie. Above replies which you confirm are correct family show Angus as a Fireman 1861 and 1871. The children's births all show her surname as McLellen too

Neil

Neil Report 30 Mar 2020 18:41

Thank you so far everyone,

Ive spoken to a family member who had also done a family tree a while ago and they have told me that Angus McArthur was married to a Margaret McKenzie both from Cambletown, Scotland, as we know they did move away to Southampton as this is where all my family live now but it would be nice to find out a bit more about there life and family in Scotland,

I wont give up
Stay safe everyone

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Mar 2020 18:34

PM from Neil - have asked him to reply on thread

Yes it is the right McArthurs, i think he was also a fireman on one census, trying to find out about there scottish past if thats possible.

safc

safc Report 30 Mar 2020 18:23

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Longrow East Side, Campbeltown, Cantyre, Argyllshire, Scotland
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Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Angus McArthur Head Married Male 35 1816 Lab (Agr) Argyllshire, Scotland
Margaret McArthur Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Alex McArthur Son - Male 6 1845 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Archibald McArthur Son - Male 4 1847 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Donald McArthur Son - Male 2 1849 - Argyllshire, Scotland
John McArthur Son - Male 0 1851 - Argyllshire, Scotland
Margaret Mathieson Visitor Unmarried Female 64 1787 Seamstress Killean, Argyllshire, Scotland

safc

safc Report 30 Mar 2020 18:05

Record Transcription:
Scotland Marriages 1561-1910

First name(s) Angus
Last name McArthur
Marriage year 1842
Marriage date 25 Jan 1842
Marriage place Campbeltown,Argyll,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Margaret
Spouse's last name McLellan
Place Campbeltown
County Argyllshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2020 18:02

Son Alexander:

MCARTHUR
ALEXANDER
ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN FR231 (FR231)
M
27/02/1845
531/
20 53
Saddell and Skipness [near Campbeltown ]


This is probably "Daniel" in 1861 census:

MCARTHUR
DONALD
ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN
M
04/12/1848
507/
70 345
Campbeltown


If you buy credits on Scotlands People (min 30 credits for £7.50) you can view and print the birth and marriage records for 6 credits per record.


Unfortunately, the marriage record, which is just a parish record, and not a marriage cert as such, will not give you the names of the parents of either Angus or Margaret.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2020 18:00

We need info from Neil as to how he worked back to the people he names

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2020 17:59

Birth of the son Archibald in 1861 census:

MCARTHUR
ARCHIBALD
ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN
M
28/10/1846
507/
70 312
Campbeltown

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Mar 2020 17:58

?????

Was there more than one Angus of marrying age in Campbeltown as the Mother here is McLellen ??

Baptism -

MCARTHUR JOHN
ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN
M
09/08/1850
507/
70 373
Campbeltown