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Sylann
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31 Jan 2020 16:28 |
Just wondering if any one has membership for Fold3 Still trying to find info about my John McAlpine born about 1785 in Scotland 1841 census he was in Linlithgow with his wife Margaret both down as 55 born in Scotland but not in county with them was their Daughter Stewart Cowie aged 15 down as son, born in Linlithgow Scotland, When he married in 1807 Haddington he was in the Berwickshire Militia ,So this is why I'm after some one who has membership for Fold3, They seem to have a few John McAlpine's , I think this is the only way I can find out anymore about him I've got all the deaths for John between 1841 and 1861 when his son death certificate had his parents was deceased
fingers crossed
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ErikaH
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31 Jan 2020 19:40 |
Fold3 offer a 7 day free trial
Not sure they have any non-American records
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Maddie
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1 Feb 2020 16:26 |
is this the fold 3
Name: Private John McAlpine Enlistment Age: 22 Discharge Age: 41 Birth Date: abt 1785 Birth Place: St Ninicans Stirling Enlistment Year: 1807 Discharge Year: 1826 Regiment: 75th Regt Of Foot
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Maddie
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1 Feb 2020 16:33 |
????? in the UK, Royal Hospital, Chelsea: Regimental Registers of Pensioners, 1713-1882 Name: John McAlpin Residence Date: 19 Dec 1826 Document Type: Regimental Registers of Pensioners died 20/04/1862 residece glasgow
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Kay????
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1 Feb 2020 18:34 |
FIndmypast also holds the same records to view with sub if its exsists it may have details of his discharge
hes under as Jno McAlpine.
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Feb 2020 23:58 |
The FMP record shown by Kay doesn't appear to be him, IF it has been transcribed correctly!
British Army Service Records
First name(s) Jno Last name McAlpine Birth year - Year 1836 Regiment Rifle Brigade Regiment / service number as transcribed Rifle Brigade Candidacy year 1836 Pension age 39 Parish Lanark County Lanarkshire Series Wo 23 - Royal Hospital Chelsea: Admission Books, Registers, And Papers 1702-1876 Archive The National Archives Archive reference WO 23 Piece number 8 Piece description Admission books. Year range 1836 Record set British Army Service Records Category Armed Forces & Conflict
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It does indeed say age 39 -> birth year of ca 1797
Rank:- Sergeant Compliant:- Chronic Cough and Defective Sight Granted Out Pension of £5 Intending to live in Glasgow
I think this might be the same John Mcalpin posted by Maddie as being in residence in Chelsea in 1926
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ArgyllGran
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2 Feb 2020 16:42 |
Only US records are on Fold3 if you go direct to their website.
But there are UK records if you access them through Ancestry, plus a Fold3 membership (or 7-day free trial).
However, I don't see any likely looking John McAlpine army records on Ancestry. Lots of John McAlpines, but none that look as if they might be the right one, if he was living in the Linlithgow/Haddington/general Edinburgh-ish area.
There's this one in Musselburgh, but not Berwickshire Militia. This is a list of serjeants:
John McAlpine in the UK, British Army Muster Books and Pay Lists, 1812-1817 Name: John McAlpine Start of Muster: 25 Dec 1812 End of Muster: 24 Mar 1813 Stationed or Muster Place: Musselburgh Barracks Regiment or Unit: 1st Regiment of Foot (Royal Scots), 4th Battalion Piece Number: 2019
Image viewable on Ancestry - no need for Fold3 for this one.
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Sylann
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28 Mar 2024 16:08 |
Hi Apparently I've asked for info before but just to put my mind at rest can anyone look at this record please UK Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Service Records 1760- 1920 Private John McAlpine Age 22 Discharge age 41 Birth date 1785 Birth Place St Ninicans Stirling Enlistment year 1807 Discharge year 1826 75 reg of foot
This is all I can see on ancestry but wondering what else the original certificate says. The dates seem to match my John McAlpine and as I don't know where he was born !!
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ErikaH
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28 Mar 2024 16:50 |
It seems ONLY to be on Fold3, so you will need to take out a free trial
If anyone one here had paid for Fold3, they would have looked at it for you when you asked originally
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Sylann
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28 Mar 2024 16:55 |
Thanks I've tried for the 7 day trail but it won't go through
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ErikaH
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28 Mar 2024 17:02 |
Posting for INFO..................
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census High Street, Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland John McAlpin Male 55 1786 Scotland Occupation Shoem Margaret McAlpin Female 55 1786 Scotland Stewart McAlpin Male 15 1826 Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland Archibald McLean Male 20 1821 Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland Archibald Crooks Male 20 1821 Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland
When did he die? Have you looked at the death cert?
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ArgyllGran
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28 Mar 2024 17:02 |
More about that man on Ancestry - ie - the St Ninians man:
John McAlpin in the Edinburgh, Scotland, Army Attestation Registers, 1796-1857 Name John McAlpin Attestation Age 22 Birth Date abt 1785 Residence Date 1807 Military Regiment 75th Attestation Date 24 Aug 1807 Attestation Place Edinburgh, Scotland
As far as I can see, the 75th Regiment of Foot was nothing to do with the Berwickshire Militia.
Link to other previous thread(s): https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1401235
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ErikaH
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28 Mar 2024 17:07 |
Yes, it's been looked at repeatedly for many years.........................
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alviegal
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28 Mar 2024 20:44 |
Not sure if this has been posted on other threads.
First name(s) John Country Scotland Last name McCalpane Witness 1 Gaven Joan Banns year 1807 Witness 2 Geo McCalpin Banns date 18 Sep 1807 Archive reference OPR 709/6 Marriage year 1807 Item 2 Occupation Soldier in the 26th regt dragoon Year range 1622-1819 Spouse's first name Margaret Page 401 Spouse's last name Donaldson Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893 Spouse's residence Haddington Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Haddington Subcategory Parish Marriages County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian) Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
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ArgyllGran
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28 Mar 2024 22:55 |
I looked at the 1807 marriage record on SP last year.
The transcription posted by Alviegal contains mistakes.
The original says he was a soldier in the Berwickshire Militia, as Sylann has said.
It was a William Horn, whose marriage is listed above John McAlpin's on the original document, who was in the 26th Regiment.
Also, John's surname is spelled McCalpin on the document, not McCalpane.
And - the "cautioners" ( a bit more than witnesses - more like guarantors) were Gavin Tosh and George McCalpin
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ErikaH
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29 Mar 2024 11:10 |
The marriage and the 1841 census both show the name with NO 'e' on the end....................I know that isn't necessarily 100%, but surely the OP should be looking in the first instance for records with that spelling
Birth of child also NO 'e'
MCALPIN STEWART COWIE JOHN MCALPIN/MARGARET DONALDSON FR3879 (FR3879) F 26/06/1825 668 120 / 36 LINLITHGOW
Same when she married
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alviegal
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29 Mar 2024 12:27 |
Thanks Argyll for that. Bit worrying the mistakes made in the transcription :-(
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ErikaH
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29 Mar 2024 12:41 |
NOTE....consistently NO 'e'
MCALPIN JOHN JOHN MCALPIN/MARGARET DONALDSON FR3872 (FR3872) M 23/02/1823 668 120 / 23 LINLITHGOW
MCALPIN MARGARET JOHN MCALPIN/MARGARET DONALDSON FR1777 (FR1777) F 22/03/1818 668 40 / 716 LINLITHGOW
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Jink20
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29 Mar 2024 16:15 |
I found this on Scribd. It is a very informative read which may offer you additional avenues of enquiry that you may not have been aware of. Some Scottish Sources on Militias, Fencibles and Volunteer Corps. 1793 – 1830 Professor Arnold Morrison
On page 39 is the following extract which suggests the below records are held at the National Archives of Scotland
B48 Linlithgow Burgh.List of men 17-55 in Dalmeny, WestLothian,1803.Militia EnrolmentLists for Queensferry,Bathgate and Linlithgow, 1816-20.Receipts for Family Allowances. Parish List for Livingston, 1808.
************See also, SC41/96/1 which has over 300 family allowances recorded in Linlithgow ,1809-15, most for the Berwickshire Militia ************************
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Jink20
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29 Mar 2024 16:47 |
Woodbridge Barracks, plan & elevations This record is held by Suffolk Archives - Ipswich Reference: P630 Title: Woodbridge Barracks, plan & elevations Description: Copy of plan and elevations of Woodbridge barracks as erected in 1804. Surveyed and drawn by Isaac Johnson
The Hold 131 Fore Street Ipswich England IP4 1LR
Telephone: 01473 296 666
Email: [email protected] https://www.suffolkarchives.co.uk/
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