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Always helpful to eliminate…….let’s hope OP sees you’ve taken so much trouble

I also hope she doesn’t start any more threads about the man ;-) ;-)

Yes, it's very helpful, LB, as it confirms that the St Ninians man isn't the right one.

The above is what Sylann requested :-). I couldn't see anything for a John McAlpin(e) in the Berwickshire Militia on Fold3 :-)

Also, as already said, Sylann's man was in the Berwickshire Militia, not the 75th Foot.

If he was 14 years in the Med, he wouldn’t have been fathering children in Scotland ;-) ;-) ;-)

The man on 1841 census was a Shoem……………presumably ‘maker’

I have looked at the document on Fold3 and details follow

Discharge Certificate for Private John McAlpin.

He was born at St Ninians near Sterling in Sterlingshire.

He joined the 75th Foot at Edinburgh at the age of 22 years for a limited period but re-enlisted for unlimited service.

Period of Service 24 Aug 1807 to 29 Nov 1826,he served for a period of 19 years and 98 days.

Behaviour: Good

His age is about 41, Height 5ft 7&half inches tall, Grey eyes, Fresh Complexion, Occupation Weaver.

His intended place of Residence on Discharge: St Ninians, near Sterling.

It states that "he has served 14years in the Mediterranean and since his return to this climate he has laboured under frequent Pulmonic attacks which together with his age and length of service makes him unable to perform any active duty, he is therefore considered unfit for service"



Reading the document it implies he spent his entire army service with the 75th Foot. There is no mention of a next of kin or whether he was married.

Hope the above helps :-)

Re Berwickshire Militia in Suffolk -

(I've also posted this on this thread:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1401235
It may have been posted already on one of the many other threads.
I can't be bothered to look. It's too confusing and too much potential duplication with so many threads.)


"At that time, in 1813, one in every 12 Lodges operated via a Military Warrant, which gave them an ability to work their Lodge wherever they were garrisoned. . . . . .

In 1780, The Berwickshire Militia was granted a Military Warrant by the Antient Grand Lodge of England to Consecrate the Hirsel Lodge No 237.

We know for definite that the last Recorded meeting place of the Hirsel Lodge was in 1811 when the Berwickshire Regiment of Militia was stationed in the Town of Woodbridge on the Suffolk Coast. . . . .

. . . . .We also know, for definite, that on the 2nd of March 1811, for whatever reason, possibly because it had been lost on some battlefield or other, the Berwickshire Militia submitted a petition to the Antient's Grand Lodge for a new Warrant and this would be granted under the Number 237B – which appears to confirm that it was a replacement rather than a new Warrant. . . . . .

. . . . We also know for certain that on the 24th March 1811, the Secretary of the Hirsel Lodge wrote to the Grand Secretary of the Antients Grand Lodge, informing him that the Berwickshire Militia were expected to relocate and hoped that the Warrant be issued as soon as possible.

Correspondence records held at the Grand Lodge of England indicates that the Regiment and therefore the Hirsel Lodge was in Edinburgh during 1812 and Kilmarnock in 1813."

https://www.lodgestjohn280.co.uk/gallery

Woodbridge Barracks, plan & elevations
This record is held by Suffolk Archives - Ipswich
Reference: P630
Title: Woodbridge Barracks, plan & elevations
Description:
Copy of plan and elevations of Woodbridge barracks as erected in 1804. Surveyed and drawn by Isaac Johnson

The Hold
131 Fore Street
Ipswich
England
IP4 1LR

Telephone: 01473 296 666

Email: [email protected]
https://www.suffolkarchives.co.uk/

I found this on Scribd. It is a very informative read which may offer you additional avenues of enquiry that you may not have been aware of.

Some Scottish Sources on Militias, Fencibles and Volunteer Corps.
1793 – 1830
Professor Arnold Morrison

On page 39 is the following extract which suggests the below records are held at the National Archives of Scotland

B48 Linlithgow Burgh.List of men 17-55 in Dalmeny, WestLothian,1803.Militia EnrolmentLists for Queensferry,Bathgate and Linlithgow, 1816-20.Receipts for Family Allowances. Parish List for Livingston, 1808.

************See also, SC41/96/1 which has over 300 family allowances recorded in
Linlithgow ,1809-15, most for the Berwickshire Militia ************************

NOTE....consistently NO 'e'

MCALPIN
JOHN
JOHN MCALPIN/MARGARET DONALDSON FR3872 (FR3872)
M
23/02/1823
668
120 / 23
LINLITHGOW

MCALPIN
MARGARET
JOHN MCALPIN/MARGARET DONALDSON FR1777 (FR1777)
F
22/03/1818
668
40 / 716
LINLITHGOW

Thanks Argyll for that. Bit worrying the mistakes made in the transcription :-(

The marriage and the 1841 census both show the name with NO 'e' on the end....................I know that isn't necessarily 100%, but surely the OP should be looking in the first instance for records with that spelling

Birth of child also NO 'e'

MCALPIN
STEWART COWIE
JOHN MCALPIN/MARGARET DONALDSON FR3879 (FR3879)
F
26/06/1825
668
120 / 36
LINLITHGOW

Same when she married

I looked at the 1807 marriage record on SP last year.

The transcription posted by Alviegal contains mistakes.

The original says he was a soldier in the Berwickshire Militia, as Sylann has said.

It was a William Horn, whose marriage is listed above John McAlpin's on the original document, who was in the 26th Regiment.

Also, John's surname is spelled McCalpin on the document, not McCalpane.

And -
the "cautioners" ( a bit more than witnesses - more like guarantors) were Gavin Tosh and George McCalpin

Not sure if this has been posted on other threads.

First name(s) John
Country Scotland
Last name McCalpane
Witness 1 Gaven Joan
Banns year 1807
Witness 2 Geo McCalpin
Banns date 18 Sep 1807
Archive reference OPR 709/6
Marriage year 1807
Item 2
Occupation Soldier in the 26th regt dragoon
Year range 1622-1819
Spouse's first name Margaret
Page 401
Spouse's last name Donaldson
Record set Scotland, Parish Marriages & Banns 1561-1893
Spouse's residence Haddington
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Haddington
Subcategory Parish Marriages
County Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland

Yes, it's been looked at repeatedly for many years.........................

More about that man on Ancestry - ie - the St Ninians man:

John McAlpin
in the Edinburgh, Scotland, Army Attestation Registers, 1796-1857
Name John McAlpin
Attestation Age 22
Birth Date abt 1785
Residence Date 1807
Military Regiment 75th
Attestation Date 24 Aug 1807
Attestation Place Edinburgh, Scotland

As far as I can see, the 75th Regiment of Foot was nothing to do with the Berwickshire Militia.


Link to other previous thread(s):
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1401235

Posting for INFO..................

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland
John McAlpin Male 55 1786 Scotland Occupation Shoem
Margaret McAlpin Female 55 1786 Scotland
Stewart McAlpin Male 15 1826 Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland
Archibald McLean Male 20 1821 Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland
Archibald Crooks Male 20 1821 Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland

When did he die? Have you looked at the death cert?

Thanks I've tried for the 7 day trail but it won't go through

It seems ONLY to be on Fold3, so you will need to take out a free trial

If anyone one here had paid for Fold3, they would have looked at it for you when you asked originally

Hi
Apparently I've asked for info before but just to put my mind at rest can anyone look at this record please
UK Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Service Records 1760- 1920
Private John McAlpine
Age 22
Discharge age 41
Birth date 1785
Birth Place St Ninicans Stirling
Enlistment year 1807
Discharge year 1826
75 reg of foot

This is all I can see on ancestry but wondering what else the original certificate says. The dates seem to match my John McAlpine and as I don't know where he was born !!