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Thank you so much for all of that. Got a bit more to go on now.
What sites do you tend to use to find this info, ones that are free to use?

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1859
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
BARKER Eliza Betsy HAMILTON 1859 Longton Stoke-On-Trent LGN/027/087

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1853
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BARKER Joseph HAMILTON Anne 1853 Stoke, St Peter Stoke-On-Trent 31/10/014.

Census Year County Place Civil Parish Ecclesiastical Parish Piece Enumeration District Folio Page Schedule House Number House or Street Name
1861 Staffordshire (STS) Longton Longton St James 1943 0 3 1 6 56 High Street
Surname Forenames Relationship Marital Status Sex Age Occupation Birth County Birth Place Disability Notes
BARKER Joseph Head M M 37 Printer Book Binder&stationer STS Longton
BARKER Annie Wife M F 26 STS Longton
BARKER Annie S. Dau - F 4 Scholar STS Longton
BARKER Eliza B. Dau - F 1 STS Longton xxxxxxx

Thank you so much for all of that, been a great help.
What sites do you use to find this info, free ones?

hi
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do you have the marriage cert for

william jackson barker 1881

No I have no marriage cert, just started looking for them as trying to help a friend.

hi

you need the marriage cert

some free sites

https://www.freecen.org.uk/

http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/

That's great, thank you so much

familysearch is also free

https://www.familysearch.org/en/

Also GRO:

www.gro.gov.uk

You have to register, but it's free to use.
Very usefully gives mother's maiden surname for births 1837-1919, and 1984-2004.
Also age at death, 1837-1957, and 1984-2019.

Only births and deaths in England/Wales.
No marriages.

Marie

You implied that you'd located William in 1891 - so which site were you using?

Ancestry ??

William Barker
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William Barker
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1861
Spouse: Fanny Barker
Child: Thomas Barker
Mary A Barker
Florence M Barker
Birth Place: Fenton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Lane End St John
Residence Place: Fenton, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub registration district: Fenton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 2178
Folio: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Barker 30
Fanny Barker 31
Thomas Barker 9
Mary A Barker 8
Florence M Barker 3


One birth at random, as proof it's the right family:

BARKER, FLORENCE MAY mms JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 270


William Barker
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Barker
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Fanny Barker
Birth Place: Fenton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Fenton
Ecclesiastical parish: Fenton Christchurch
Town: Fenton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors:
Piece: 2613
Folio: 111
Page Number: 9
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
William Barker 40
Fanny Barker 40
Edward T Barker 19
Mary Annie Barker 18
Florence May Barker 13
Ethel Barker 8
William Henry Barker 6


William Barker
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Barker
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Fenton, Staffordshire
Civil Parish: Fenton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 16 Hill St, Heron Cross, Fenton, Staffordshire
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Potters Placer
Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Registration District Number: 361
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 16585
Household Members:
Name Age
William Barker 50
Fanny Barker 51
Frederick Evans 19

safc posted 1861 for Joseph and Annie (nee Hamilton) Barker.

By 1871 Annie has remarried:

Annie Sutton
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Annie Sutton
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: 1834
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Longton Staffordshire England
Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Longton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 2876
Folio: 37
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Sutton 37
Annie Sutton 37
Frederic A Sutton 7
Annie Barker 14
Eliza B Barker 12
Charlotte Sutton 4
Mary L Sutton 1


Edwin Sutton
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Edwin Sutton
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Birth Date: 1834
Marriage Date: 1866
Marriage Place: St James', Longton, Stafford, England
Father: Thomas Sutton
Spouse: Anna Barker
FHL Film Number: 1471085
Reference ID: 2:3F9MHDL

But by 1881 Edwin has another wife:

Mary L. Sutton
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary L. Sutton
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Edwin Sutton
Mother: Jane Sutton
Gender: Female
Where born: Longton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 76 Edensor Rd
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub registration district: Longton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors:
Piece: 2735
Folio: 132
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Sutton 47
Jane Sutton 27
Frederick A. Sutton 17
Charlotte Sutton 16
Mary L. Sutton 11
Anne Sutton 4
Thomas Sutton 3
John W. Sutton 2
Margaret Sutton 1
Hannah Sutton 1


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Edwin Sutton
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Edwin Sutton
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Birth Date: 1835
Marriage Date: 9 Aug 1875
Marriage Place: Edensor, Stafford, England
Father: Thomas Sutton
Spouse: Jane Symer
FHL Film Number: 1470945
Reference ID: p142 cn284


SUTTON, HANNAH mms LYMER
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 282



Annie's death ??:

Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%)
Sutton Anne 38 Stoke T. 6b 142


Joseph Barker's death:

BARKER, JOSEPH 40
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 162

No sign of William Jackson Barker (born Sept qr 1863) in 1871 with his mother Annie.

If this is his death, then he's not the person who married Fanny Jackson:

BARKER, WILLIAM JACKSON 2
GRO Reference: 1866 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 167