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23 Jan 2020 21:32 |
Trying to find parents of William Barker, b.1861 Fenton, Staffordshire. He married Fanny Jackson, b.1859 market Drayton. They married 1881 in Market Drayton. Haven't been able to locate William in censuses prior to 1891. Can anyone help please. Thank you.
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ErikaH
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23 Jan 2020 21:47 |
If he knew his father, the name and occupation will be on the marriage cert
Which site are you using to try to find census info?
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:01 |
For some reason my computer isn't letting me copy/paste at the moment.
In 1871 there's a William Ridge, born 1861 in Fenton, grandson of Phillip and Martha Ridge, plus their sons John and Phillip and daughter Emily, all living in Fenton.
Although the image clearly says William Ridge, an Ancestry user has amended it to William Barker.
He is still with his grandparents in 1881. but this time listed as Barker.
His marriage to Fanny was later that year, in Market Drayton.
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Catherine
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23 Jan 2020 22:02 |
possible
1881 living with his grandparents
Name: William Barker Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relationship to Head: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 2 Park Lane Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Potters Placer Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Fenton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2730 Folio: 30 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Phillip Ridge 77 Martha Ridge 67 William Barker 19
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:04 |
Yes, that's the one I mentioned above.
and now the computer's letting me paste the 1871:
William Ridge in the 1871 England Census Name: William Ridge [William Barker] Age: 10 Estimated birth year: 1861 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Fenton Staffordshire England Civil Parish: Fenton Ecclesiastical parish: Longton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Fenton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 243 Piece: 2872 Folio: 24 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Phillip Ridge 69 Martha Ridge 54 John Ridge 30 Emily Ridge 6 Phillip Ridge 11 Martha Ridge 11 William Ridge 10
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Catherine
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23 Jan 2020 22:06 |
2 births with mmn Ridge
BARKER, WILLIAM RIDGE GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 191 BARKER, WILLIAM RIDGE GRO Reference: 1861 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 166
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:06 |
His birth:
BARKER, WILLIAM mms RIDGE GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 191
EDIT:
Or the one in 1861 !
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:08 |
Possibly parents' marriage:
Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%) Barker Samuel Stoke On .T. 6b 205 Ridge Maria Stoke on T 6B 205
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Catherine
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23 Jan 2020 22:09 |
In which case, possible marriage for parents
arriages Mar 1859 (>99%) **** Barker Samuel Stoke On .T. 6b 205 Birks Samuel Stoke On T 6b 205 Goodwin David Stoke On Trent 6b 205 Newham Sarah Stoke on T 6b 205 Ratcliffe Alice Stoke on T 6b 205 **** Ridge Maria Stoke on T 6B 205 Stephenson Anne Stoke on T 6b 205 Stephenson Fanny Stoke on T 6b 205
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Catherine
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23 Jan 2020 22:11 |
Name: Maria Ridge Gender: Female Baptism Date: 29 Jan 1844 Baptism Place: Longton, Stoke-upon-Trent, Stafford, England Father: Phillip Ridge Mother: Martha FHL Film Number: 1471087 Reference ID: item 2 p 117 ............................................................
Name: Maria Ridge Gender: Female Baptism Date: 18 Apr 1844 Baptism Place: St. Gregory, Longton, Stafford, England Father: Philippe Ridge Mother: Martha Timmins ****** FHL Film Number: 1999393 Reference ID: item 8-10
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:11 |
Maria with her parents in 1861: [EDIT - No, it's 1851! ]
Phillip Ridge in the 1851 England Census Name: Phillip Ridge Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Martha Ridge Gender: Male Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Longton St James Town: Fenton Culvert County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Fenton ED, institution, or vessel: 1f Neighbors: Household schedule number: 33 Piece: 2006 Folio: 403 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Phillip Ridge 50 Martha Ridge 35 Samuel Ridge 19 Charles Ridge 13 John Ridge 12 George Ridge 19 Maria Ridge 7 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mary Ann Ridge 5 Martha Ridge 3
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Catherine
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23 Jan 2020 22:11 |
1841 Name: Philip Ridge Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Hundred: North Pirehill County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Sub-registration district: Fenton Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 990 Book: 4 Folio: 22 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Philip Ridge 30 Martha Ridge 20 Samuel Ridge 9 Charles Ridge 2 John Ridge 1
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Name: Maria Ridge Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Phillip Ridge Mother's name: Martha Ridge Gender: Female Where born: Fenton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Longton St James Town: Fenton Culvert County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Fenton ED, institution, or vessel: 1f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Piece: 2006 Folio: 403 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Phillip Ridge 50 Martha Ridge 35 Samuel Ridge 19 Charles Ridge 13 John Ridge 12 George Ridge 19 Maria Ridge 7 Mary Ann Ridge 5 Martha Ridge 3
1861 Name: Philip Ridge Age: 57 Estimated birth year: 1804 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Martha Ridge Gender: Male Where born: Fenton Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Fenton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Fenton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 192 Piece: 1940 Folio: 22 Page Number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Philip Ridge 57 Martha Ridge 40 John Ridge 22 George Ridge 20 Mary Ann Ridge 15 Martha Ridge 13 Amelia Ridge 6 Phillip Ridge 10/12
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:15 |
Maybe a possibility for Samuel ?? Quite a bit older than Maria.
Samuel Barker in the 1851 England Census Name: Samuel Barker Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Son Mother's name: Sarah Barker Gender: Male Where born: Longton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Longton Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Longton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Longton ED, institution, or vessel: 02 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 137 Piece: 2007 Folio: 57 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Barker 52 John Barker 27 Samuel Barker 25 William Barker 23 Charlotte Barker 12 Moses Barker 1
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:21 |
Death of the 1860 William Barker:
BARKER, WILLIAM 0 GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 129
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:27 |
Catherine has posted a different 1861 from the one I posted.
Mine shows a Maria Ridge with her parents.
But clearly two different families.
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Catherine
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23 Jan 2020 22:31 |
No, the one you have posted AG is the 1851 census, the same as the one I also posted.
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:33 |
Oops, so it is!
Sorry!
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safc
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23 Jan 2020 22:40 |
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Births Sep 1863 (>99%) BARKER William Jackson Stoke T 6b 211
Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%) BARKER William Jackson Mt. Drayton 6a 1127 xxxxxxx GREGORY Annie Mt Drayton 6a 1127 GRIFFITHS John Mt Drayton 6a 1127 JACKSON Fanny Mt.Drayton 6a 1127 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Catherine
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23 Jan 2020 22:45 |
sibling
BARKER, JAMES RIDGE GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 229
BARKER, MARY ANN RIDGE GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 229
BARKER, MARTHA RIDGE GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 228
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safc
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23 Jan 2020 22:48 |
Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1863 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference BARKER William Jackson HAMILTON 1863 Longton Stoke-On-Trent LGN/033/068
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