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HI can any one help please . John T Siddall born 1872 Morton in Keighley.married Annie Slee in 1896 . they had adopted Nellie Siddall ,wright,Clayton . born 1908 . on 1939 census Nellie married Allan Siddall . On 1911 census living together was John T Siddall head Annie Siddall wife Florence Edith Robinson niece and Nellie Siddall Adopted daughter . trying to find the parents of Allan Siddall born 1909 on 1939 census he was a fruiterer dealer own business .thanks janette

For our reference:

Allan Siddall
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Allan Siddall
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1909
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 16 Vernon Road
Residence Place: Rotherham, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: Fruiterer & ??oker dealer own Business
Schedule Number: 230
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: KHBQ
Registration district: ROTHERHAM. 511-1
Inferred Spouse: Nellie Siddall
Household Members:
Name
Allan Siddall
Nellie Siddall - 11/11/09

Also one closed record on Ancestry.

Nellie's surname changed later to Claydon (register was amended 20/03/57) , and also to Wright (amendment 17/02/67)

Allan's death:

Allan Siddall
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Allan Siddall
Death Age: 39
Birth Date: abt 1909
Registration Date: Oct 1948
[Nov 1948]
[Dec 1948]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Rotherham
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 630


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Allan Siddall
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Allan Siddall
Age in 1911: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1909
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Rotherham, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Rotherham
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 105 Claremont Street Holmes Rotherham
Registration district: Rotherham
Registration District Number: 511
Sub-registration district: North West Rotherham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 28089
Household Members:
Name Age
William Ernest Siddall 33
Annie Siddall 35
William Ernest Siddall 7
Percy Siddall 5
Madge Siddall 4
Allan Siddall

Allan's birth:

SIDDALL, ALLAN mms HAGUE
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 795


Parents' marriage -

Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
Hague Annie Sheffield 9c 1028
SIDDALL William Ernest Sheffield 9c 1028

Allan's probate:

Siddall, Allan, of 16 Vernon Street, Rotherham, Yorkshire, died 19 December 1948 at The Hospital, Doncaster Gate, Rotherham. Probate London 20 January to William Ernest Siddall, retired storekeeper, and William Hayes, solicitor's clerk.
Effects: £866 1s


Allan Siddall
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Allan Siddall
Death Date: 19 Dec 1948
Death Place: Yorkshire, York, England
Probate Date: 20 Jan 1949
Probate Registry: London, England

William Ernest Siddall
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Ernest Siddall
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: William Hy Siddall
Mother: Harriett Siddall
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Sheffield St George
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors:
Piece: 4367
Folio: 53
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hy Siddall 46
Harriett Siddall 47
William Ernest Siddall 23
Ellen Siddall 18
Annie Siddall 15
Lillie Siddall 10


William E Siddall
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William E Siddall
Gender: Male
Age: 13
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1878
Father: William Hy Siddall
Mother: Harriett Siddall
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Nether Hallam
Residence Place: Sheffield, Nether Hallam, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Nether Hallam
ED, Institution or Vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Piece: 3793
Folio: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hy Siddall 37
Harriett Siddall 38
William E Siddall 13
Mabel Siddall 11
Nellie Siddall 8
Anne Siddall 5
Lillie Siddall 5/12


Ernest Wm. Siddall
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Ernest Wm. Siddall
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William H. Siddall
Mother: Harriett Siddall
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Nether Hallam
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 12 Woollen Street
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors:
Piece: 4623
Folio: 9
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William H. Siddall 26 - Sheffield, railway worker
Harriett Siddall 27
Ernest Wm. Siddall 3
Mabel Siddall 1
Walter Ward 23 - Lodger


What beautiful handwriting on that 1881 census! I wish they were all so clear.

Nellie's re-marriage?

Marriages Dec 1950 (>99%)

Claydon James E Siddall Sheffield 2d 331
Siddall Nellie Claydon Sheffield 2d 331

I can't see a marriage of Allan and Nellie.

Maybe married under her birth name? Or married before?

Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)
Siddall Alan Wortley Rotherham 9c 1603
Wortley Nellie Siddall Rotherham 9c 1603


???

WORTLEY, NELLIE mms ATTON
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 772

Parents??

Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)
Alton Kate Rotherham 9c 1107
Atton Kate Rotherham 9c 1107
Wortley Richard Rotherham 9c 1107

EDIT:
BUT that Nellie is with her parents in 1911:

Richard Wortley
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Richard Wortley
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Rotherham, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Rotherham
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 37 Wortley Road Masbro Rotherham Yorks
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Electrical Labourer
Registration district: Rotherham
Registration District Number: 511
Sub-registration district: North West Rotherham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 28081
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Wortley 40
Kate Wortley 42
Albert Edward Wortley 15
Horaito Alton Wortley 8
Kate Wortley 6
George Wortley 4
Nellie Wortley 1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<



Are you sure your Nellie married Allan Siddall??

For our reference:

Nellie Siddall
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Nellie Siddall
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Adopted Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Keighley, Yorkshire, England <<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Keighley
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 138 Lawkholme Lane Keighley Yorks
Registration district: Keighley
Registration District Number: 492
Sub-registration district: Keighley
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Piece: 26094
Household Members:
Name Age
John Theophilus Siddall 39
Annie Siddall 42 - Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland (not Leeds as transcribed on Ancestry)
Florena Edith Robinson 21 - Hong Kong (not Kirkby as transcribed)
Nellie Siddall 3

HI , On the 1939 census Allan Siddall is with Nellie thanks

Yes, but is his wife definitely your Nellie (the Siddalls' adopted daughter)?

See what you mean so Nellie might not be the same Nellie the Siddalls adopted daughter

That's right.

We can't find any marriage for Nellie Siddall and Allan Siddall.

I think his wife is Nellie Wortley, who was born in the 4th quarter of 1909, which would match with the DOB of 11/11/1909 given in 1939.

This is your Nellie's marriage:

Ellen Siddall
in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Ellen Siddall
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 12 Aug 1930
Marriage Place: Riddlesden, St Mary, West Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Riddlesden, St Mary
Father: John Freephens [ Theophilus ] Siddall
Spouse: Erie [Eric ] Arthur Suson [Silson ]


Looks like they emigrated to Canada:

Ellen Silson
in the Newspapers.com Obituary Index, 1800s-current
Name: Ellen Silson
Gender: Female
Death Age: 88
Birth Date: abt 1907
Death Date: 27 Jun 1995
Death Place: Carleton Place, Ontafie-on [Ontario ]
Burial Date: 30 Jun
Obituary Date: 29 Jun 1995
Obituary Place: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Spouse: Eric Arthur Silson
Child: Peter Silson
R. R T Place
Carleton Place


Eric A. Silson
in the Web: Canadian Headstone Index, 1840-2017
Name: Eric A. Silson
Cemetery: St. John's Anglican Church+, Innisville
Burial Place: Lanark, Ontario, Canada
Notes: SILSON Eric A. 1904-1989
Beloved Husband Of Ellen Siddall 1907-1995

Your Nellie's birth - she'll be the illegitimate daughter of Florence [Florena ] Edith Robinson who is with the Siddalls in 1911:

ROBINSON, ELLEN SIDDALL -
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 164

Ellen/Nellie and Eric Arthur are still in Keighley in 1933:

Ellen Silson
in the West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962
Name: Ellen Silson
Gender: Female
Year: 1933
Country: England
County: West Yorkshire
Parliamentary Division: Keighley
Place of Abode: 1435 Canal road [ Western Avenue on image ]
Reference Number: KEI:13/9; SKIP:18/2

But I don't see them in 1939, so they'd maybe emigrated by then.

Thank you all of you for the info . Was just wondering now how and if Allan Siddall is related to John T Siddall

Eric must have returned to the UK after Ellen/Nelllie's death:

Eric Arthur Silson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Eric Arthur Silson
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1904
Registration Date: Oct 1989
Registration district: Bournemouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 23
Page: 250

Then perhaps he's just commemorated on the gravestone in Canada.

The Nellie who was adopted was age 3 in 1911 but your Nellie who is with Alan Sidall in 1939 was born November 1909 so would only have been 18 months old which is quite a difference