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thank you so much for your help
Linda

?? Already suggested by AG but this mentions Hallgate mentioned in Baptism: 1 Apr 1833 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Charlotte Barrow found by ErikaH.


Baptism: 8 Mar 1802 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Robert Foster - second Son of Ralph Foster & Ellen (formerly Sayer)
Born: 3 Dec
Abode: Hallgate
Occupation: Slater
Mother's Parents: Thomas & Isabel Sayer
Register: Baptisms 1799 - 1812, Page 70
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

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Baptism: 24 Jul 1803 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Alice Barrow - second Daur. of George Barrow & Mary (formerly Belshaw)
Born: 30 Jun
Abode: Scoles
Occupation: Weaver
Mother's Parents: Thomas & Margaret Belshaw
Register: Baptisms 1799 - 1812, Page 119
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 1 Jan 1806 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Margaret Barrow - second Daur. of George Barrow & Mary (formerly Belshaw)
Born: 10 Nov
Abode: Scoles
Occupation: Weaver
Mother's Parents: Thomas & Margt. Belshaw
Register: Baptisms 1799 - 1812, Page 193
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Marriage: 28 Jun 1803 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
George Barrow - (X), Wigan
Mary Belshaw - (X), Wigan
Witness: Wm. Bancks; Robt. Haselden
Married by Banns by: Cecil Wray Curate
Register: Marriages 1790 - 1803, Page 255, Entry 1606
Source: LDS Film 1885689

Baptism: 17 Feb 1776 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Jane Belshaw - Daughter of Thomas Belshaw & Margt.
Abode: frog-lane
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1778, Page 203
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Baptism: 26 Apr 1778 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mary Belshaw - Daughter of Thomas Belshaw & Margt.
Abode: frog-lane
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1778, Page 231
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Maddie

that's interesting.

A Tally - never seen or heard of that before.

Thank you so much

Linda

maybe robert was already married

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Robert
Last name Foster
Name note -
Marriage year 1827
Marriage date 25 Feb 1827
Marriage place Wigan
Spouse's first name(s) Hannah
Spouse's last name Tarton

1871 is interesting
Wallace Lane, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Robert Foster Head - Male 72 1799 - Lancashire, England
Alice Barrow Tally Wife - Female 72 1799 - Lancashire, England

tally-wife ---- the woman with whom a man cohabits.
Residence Wigan, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire

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Burial: 13 Nov 1871 St Aidan, Billinge, Lancashire, England
Alice Barrow -
Age: 72 years
Abode: Wigan
Buried by: Howard St. George Vicar
Register: Burials 1851 - 1872, Page 195, Entry 1555
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Thank you so much for all this help

No way of knowing for certain about her father, but look carefully at Charlotte's baptism

ALL the children were Alice's and were illegitimate

Technically, a stepfather actually marries the mother.

Burial: 2 Mar 1873 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Robert Foster -
Age: 73
Abode: Waite's Delf Pemberton
Buried by: C. L. Coldwell
Register: Burials 1866 - 1874, Page 191, Entry 548
Source: LDS Film 1885640

Burial: 25 Apr 1826 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Barrow - Son of Alice Barrow
Age: 2 weeks
Abode: Scholes
Cause of Death: Fits
Buried by: J.Bromilow
Register: Burials 1824 - 1830, Page 93, Entry 739
Source: LDS Film 1885701

Burial: 2 Feb 1843 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Barrow - Son of Alice Barrow
Age: 3 Months
Abode: Pemberton
Cause of Death: Fits
Buried by: Charles Bisset Curate
Register: Burials 1839 - 1844, Page 251, Entry 2007
Source: LDS Film 1885702

Burial: 21 Jun 1844 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James Barrow - Son of Alice Barrow
Age: 11 Weeks
Abode: Pemberton
Cause of Death: Weakness
Buried by: John Lomas Curate
Register: Burials 1839 - 1844, Page 372, Entry 2969
Source: LDS Film 1885702

thank you so much everyone.

am I right in thinking Ellen was born Ellen Barrows to Alice Barrows
no father mentioned
and Robert foster was a stepfather

Thanks Linda

I see on the 1871 census Ellen is a widow with daughters Elizabeth, 14, Jane, 10 and Margaret, 2.

Baptism: 19 Mar 1844 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James Barrow - Son of Alice Barrow
Born: 8 Mar
Abode: Pemberton
Baptised by: Charles Bisset Curate
Register: Baptisms 1842 - 1845, Page 225, Entry 1799
Source: LDS Film 1885679

Baptism: 24 Mar 1847 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Sarah Barrow - Daur. of Alice Barrow
Born: 7 Mar
Abode: Pemberton
Baptised by: John T. Pigot Curate
Register: Baptisms 1845 - 1848, Page 269, Entry 2146
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

The first Sarah must have died.............

Yes...........

Burial: 21 Nov 1837 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Sarah Barrow - Daughter of Alice Barrow
Age: 7 Months
Abode: Waits Delf Pemberton
Cause of Death: Weakness
Buried by: Edward Jones Curate
Register: Burials 1834 - 1839, Page 193, Entry 1544
Source: LDS Film 1885702

Not much luck with the name Sarah

Burial: 3 Jun 1847 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Sarah Barrow - Daughter of Alice Barrow
Age: 3 Months
Abode: Pemberton
Buried by: Henry Neale Curate
Register: Burials 1847 - 1848, Page 4, Entry 25
Source: LDS Film 1885702

Baptism: 23 Mar 1841 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Ralph Barrow - Son of Alice Barrow
Born: 5 Mar
Abode: Pemberton
Baptised by: Benjn. Wilson Off. Min.
Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1842, Page 247, Entry 1970
Source: LDS Film 1885679

Baptism: 15 May 1837 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Sarah Barrow - Daur. of Alice Barrow
Born: 5 Apr
Abode: Pemberton
Baptised by: J. K. Glazebrook
Register: Baptisms 1836 - 1838, Page 115, Entry 914
Source: LDS Film 1885678


Baptism: 12 Dec 1838 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Edward Barrow - Son of Alice Barrow
Born: 1 Nov 1833
Abode: Pemberton
Baptised by: Jas. K. Glazebrook Curate
Register: Baptisms 1836 - 1838, Page 299, Entry 2392
Source: LDS Film 1885678

Alice didn't marry, BUT.....................

Baptism: 1 Apr 1833 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Charlotte Barrow - 1 Daur. of Alice Barrow
Born: 21 Feb
Abode: Pemberton
Notes: [Father recorded as 'Robert Foster of Hallgate, Stonemason then deleted]
Baptised by: J. K. Glazebrook
Register: Baptisms 1830 - 1833, Page 270, Entry 2158

?? Note parents' first names - repeated in Alice's younger children

Name: Robert Foster
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 08 Mar 1802
Christening Date (Original): 08 MAR 1802
Christening Place: WIGAN,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 03 Dec 1801
Father's Name: Ralph Foster
Mother's Name: Ellen Sayer

Charlotte Barrows
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Charlotte Barrows
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Wigan
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Pemberton
Neighbors:
Piece: 522
Book: 16
Folio: 51
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Barrows 40
Catherine Barrows 10
Charlotte Barrows 8
Ellen Barrows 6
Thos Barrows 2
Ralph Barrows 3 Mo

Also (not transcribed on Ancestry) -

Charles R Foster, 40, Stone mason

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Waits Delf, Pemberton, Wigan, Lancashire, England


Alice Barrow Head Widow Female 51 1800 - Lancashire, England
Charlotte Barrow Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 At Home Pemberton, Lancashire, England
>>>>>Ellen Barrow Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 At Home Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Barrow Son - Male 12 1839 Scholar Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Ralph Barrow Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Pemberton, Lancashire, England
>>>>>Robert Forster Lodger Unmarried Male 51 1800 Stone Mason Wigan, Lancashire, England

think this is her in 1841 census

llen Barrow
England and Wales Census, 1841
Tools
Name:
Ellen Barrow
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1841
Event Place:
Wigan, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Residence Note:
Ryland'S Mill Lane
Gender:
Female
Age:
6
Age (Original):
6
Birth Year (Estimated):
1835
Birthplace:
Lancashire
Registration District:
Wigan
Parish:
Wigan
County:
Lancashire
Page Number:
12
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
522/51
Affiliate Record Type:
Institution
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Alice Barrow

Female
40
Lancashire
Cathrine Barrow

Female
10
Lancashire
Charlotte Barrow

Female
8
Lancashire
Ellen Barrow xxxx

Female
6
Lancashire
Thos Barrow

Male
2
Lancashire
Ralph Barrow

Male
0
Lancashire
Charles R Foster

Male
40
Lancashire

Robert Forster
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Robert Forster
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1800
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Pemberton
Ecclesiastical parish: Pemberton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 2200
Folio: 451
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Barrow 51 - widow, Ashton in Makerfield
Charlotte Barrow 18
Ellen Barrow 16
Thomas Barrow 12
Ralph Barrow 10
Robert Forster 51 - unmarried, stone mason

The only record you can hope for is her baptism. Civil registration didn't start until July 1837

Presumably this is Ellen in 1861:


Ellen Barrow
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Ellen Barrow
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: 1835
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Pemberton
Ecclesiastical parish: Pemberton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Pemberton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 2782
Folio: 80
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Tharlotte Barrow 27 - widow
Ellen Barrow 26 - sister
Thomas Barrow 21 - brother
Ralph Barrow 20 - brother
Elizabeth Barrow 1 - daughter
Jane Barrow 1 - sister's daughter
Robert Foster 50 - stonemason, Wigan