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Well that’s great folks!
Thank you
The Alien Resident card didn’t have any info, so going to try the others.
Yes Chris thanks again for your input.
Hopefully it will bring up Rose’s parents so that might be a possible lead to keep the trail going
You’ve been brilliant. :-D

Sorry, Chris, I missed that, trying to do too many things at the same time.
:-)
Every route is worth trying especially if it's free, so I'd probably go for that first to see what info it gives.

(was below from earlier AG, thought perhaps might be a Notice of Birth?)...

(looking again, might just be Marriage perhaps!)

Chris :)

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=beguin&fulltext=Search

I don't see anything about 1903 on any of the links you provided, Chris, apart from her date of birth.

Am I missing something?

Still wondering about that 1903 Methodist reference...

Below link gives details on a look up service...(did post earlier)

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Family_records

Chris :)

You could try contacting the service responsible for BMD records to see if it is possible to buy a copy of Rose's birth certificate:-

SERVICE DE LA JUSTICE - SURVEILLANCE DE L'ÉTAT CIVIL
Rue de Tivoli 22
2000 Neuchâtel


032 889 41 41
> Contact

VIRGINIE FREY-GALSTER
Responsable

Thanks ArgyllGran,
I think it would be worth getting a copy of both documents, there may also be info on the Alien Registration Card that could be helpful.

Good find, Catherine!

I think it says:

Married on March 27th 19(??) at St Martin's Methodist Church , by Rev F [ R ?] Bulloch [?] [something something] Charles Alfred, son of Mr and Mrs T E Carrel, Anneville Farm, St Martin, to Rose Genevieve, daughter of Mr and Mrs J L [?] Beguin, Neuchatel, Swizerland.

I think the year is 1924.

She was certainly still unmarried as at 6 Oct 1923, the date of her alien registration, as already posted.

I've been looking for a marriage record, but no luck so far, sorry.

If you go to this site:-

https://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/collection/Details/archive/110172865

you can buy a copy of Rose's Aliens registration card . It will cost £5.00 but it will give you her photo and it may give you the date of when she arrived in Jersey.

Aliens Restrictions Act. On 17th February 1920 the States of Jersey enacted the principles of the 1914 English Aliens Restrictions Act. Under the law all aliens over the age of sixteen resident in Jersey has to register with the Immigration Officer. Every alien in the Island had to register, no matter how old they were or how long they had been living in Jersey.

......................................

you can also check this out, from the same web site:-

https://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/collection/Details/archive/110279139

I've had a look at the distorted copy and I think it is her marriage. I can make out Married on and the date of March 27th and the name Charles Alfred son of

and a few other bits but best make a request to see it properly.

[A digital image is available to view online or this item is closed because it is exempt from public access under the Freedom of Information Law. If you would like to make a request please email us.]

Thanks Chris and Catherine. I am trying to find the marriage certificate for Charles and Rose as it may mention Rose’s parents. They both spoke French as Charles was a native of Jersey.
The Carrel family line has been fairly easy to find through Jersey Records, but it’s the Beguin line that’s hard to find. I have nothing on Rose’s family at all.
Thanks for all your efforts to date though.
Any other ideas?

adding for ref. knowing his parents names, may help find a marriage:-

Name: Charles Carrel
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil Parish: St Martin
County/Island: Jersey
Country: Channel Islands
Street address: Les Marrettes Faldonet Gorey Distrect, Jersey
Occupation: School
Registration district: Jersey
Registration District Number: 637
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 6/3
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 34846
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Edwin Carrel 33 - Birth Place: St Martin, Jersey, Channel Islands
Anne Carrel 34 - Birth Place: Trinity, Jersey, Channel Islands
Edwin Carrel 11
Charles Carrel 9
...............................................

Name: Thomas Edwin Carrel
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1878
Marriage Date: 25 Mar 1899
Marriage Place: St Saviour, Jersey
Parish as it Appears: St Saviour
Search Photos: Search for 'St Saviour' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Philippe Carrel
Spouse: Anne Mary Briant

Can't see that this has been posted so posting in case you don't have it:-

Canada, recensement des provinces des Prairies, 1926

Nom: Charles A Carrel
•
Type d'événement: Census
Date de l'événement: 1926
Lieu de l'événement: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Lieu de l'événement (original): Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Sexe: Male
Âge: 25
Statut marital: Married
Race: English
Année de naissance (estimée): 1901
Lieu de naissance: England
Année d'immigration: 1926
Lien avec le chef de ménage: Head of Household
Numéro de page: 3
Foyer Rôle Sexe Âge Lieu de naissance
Charles A Carrel Head of Household Homme 25 England
Rose Y Carrel Wife Femme 24 Switzerland

...........interesting to note that under:- Language Maternelle they have both noted French

As it refers to a publication 1903, might be a notice, Birth/Baptism...if you're trying to find names of her Parents...

Chris :)

No I tried Family Search, Argyll Gran, and didn’t find her either.
Thanks Chris I’m pursuing that line, but really it’s the time before she came to Jersey and married, and her parents and siblings I’m trying to trace.
Of course much was disrupted and destroyed by the war so it may not be possible to find her parents.
There are lots of Beguins in Neuchatel but I can’t find a link to Rose Genevieve amongst them
I know you’re all much better at finding things than me, as you’ve already proved, so that’s why I’m asking for your help.
:-)

If you contact on below, they might be able to help with the 1903 Methodist Church reference...

Chris :)

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Family_records

That’s helpful too Chris. Thanks.
I think the Carroll lead isn’t any connection. Thank you anyway.

Apparently Rose Genevieve and Charles Carrel went to Canada to emigrate, but she was kicked by a horse which lead to gangrene and they returned to Jersey for treatment and stayed there.

I wonder if you have any ideas how I could trace Rose Genevieve and her family in Switzerland before she moved to Jersey?

Info re researching Swiss BMDs:

https://tinyurl.com/y2qur79w

However, I don't see her birth on FamilySearch.

Edwin Walter Carroll's wife Genevieve is NOT your Rose.

A tree on Ancestry shows the image of his 1941 marriage cert.
As Gwyn has said, Edwin's wife's maiden surname was Rose.

She was Genevieve Lewis Rose, father William L Rose, birthplace Madison county.

Not online yet, but her below...

Chris :)

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=beguin&fulltext=Search

Methodist Church publications records index - B

J/C/BW1/157 - Rose Genevieve Beguin


https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Family_records


Edits (Beghin, might be another variant of Surname)

That sounds like her. Brilliant!
So does that mean she visited Canada, in which case Edwin is some relation?
Thanks Catherine and Gwyn