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25 Sep 2019 09:27 |
Her mother is Mary Fowler b 1816. Both her and her sister Sophia Fowler 1812 married Charles Reading (I have lots on this family).
Charles Reading and Mary Fowler's children are James Reading b 1835, Sarah Reading b 1837, MARY READING b 1838 - 72? and Samuel Reading.
I didn't find a huge amount on Florence B Flower Reading's mother, Mary Reading b 1838. A few possible Census records but no marriage.
I have plenty on Charles Reading and Sophia Reading and their children, not focusing on them currently, thank you :-) :-) :-)
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Chris Ho :)
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25 Sep 2019 09:47 |
The reason I wondered was below...(relating to Mary and her sad Death, Father Charles is mentioned)
(Newspapers can be viewed from below, Find My Past or Genes, all require a Subscription, well worth a Month at least, all sorts of things turn up!)
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/account/subscribe
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GREAT BERKHAMPSTEAD ... mamma threw her in and she got out again. She said her name was Reading, and she wanted to be taken fo her Aunt Sophia. (The little girl proved to be the daughter of the deceased Mary Reading, of Chesham, aged 33.) Her neighbour, Mrs. Tarsey, came, and they ... Published: Saturday 04 January 1873 Newspaper: Bucks Herald
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... mother threw her in. and she got out again. She said her name was Reading, and she wanted to taken to her aunt Sophia. (The Uttie girl proved to be the daughter of the deceased, Mary Reading, of Chesham, aged 38.) Witness’s neighbour, Mrs. Tarsey came, ... Published: Saturday 04 January 1873 Newspaper: Herts Advertiser County: Hertfordshire, England
(as above, from British Newspaper Archive)
(another relating, am sure there will be more relating to family, needs time!)
24 March 1916 - Buckinghamshire Examiner - Chesham, Buckinghamshire
Death of Old Inhabitant. We regret to report the death of Mrs. Sophia Anne Reading, wife of Mr. Philip Reading, of the Broadway, Chesham, which took place on the afternoon of March 17th. Although the decease was somewhat sudden...
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25 Sep 2019 10:52 |
Thank you so much, Chris.
I'm going to be a bit slow catching up.. All so very interesting, I've not seen that. Will subscribe in due course. Many thanks! :-)
Thank you all so much! :-)
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25 Sep 2019 11:26 |
Such a find the newspaper article as I've pondered Mary Reading for years. Does it say how she died?
I also wonder if it's her on the Census 1861 living in Hemel Hempstead under name Mary Ann Reading with a John Floyd 21 yrs and new baby Mary Elizabeth?
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25 Sep 2019 13:42 |
She drowned herself and hoped to drown her daughter, Flora as well.
A Mr F Darvell, Mary's cousin, who was close to her, was sent a letter posted by Mary the previous day.' In it she said that she and the little girl would be found in the canal opposite her clothes. She hoped that her brother and sister would look after their father well as she had interest in nothing.'
The poor woman seems to have been seriously depressed and had been seeing the doctor about it. She had secured a post as a maid and also visited Sophia and Phillip Reading to take tea just hours before commiting the act.
Verdict was Death from drowning while in a state of unsound mind.
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25 Sep 2019 18:19 |
Gosh.. poor woman.
Thank you for that Alviegal x
Amazing what you can find out about Family
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29 Sep 2019 15:18 |
Not wanting to open another thread but have been unable to find out what happened to Mary Elizabeth Reading b 1861 Hemel Hempstead. I've found her on Census of 1861 with her mother a Mary Ann Reading. I believe this woman although has Ann as middle name may well be the Mary Reading b 1838 Chesham on my original posting above.. It's not Mary Ann Reading born in Redbourne..
The baby had only been 2 weeks old so am thinking she may have died but can't see a death for her either. She's not the Kensington death some years later as that applied to a birth of same name in Kensington.
Any thoughts gladly received. Many thanks :-)
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29 Sep 2019 15:46 |
For our reference ( I don't think it's been posted already ):
Mary Elizabeth Reading in the 1861 England Census Name: Mary Elizabeth Reading Age: 2/12 Estimated birth year: 1861 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Mary Ann Reading Gender: Female Where born: Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Hemel Hempstead Ecclesiastical parish: Box Moor County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Hemel Hempstead Sub-registration district: Hemel Hempstead ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 55 Piece: 839 Folio: 69 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age William Lovett 49 - head Hannah Lovett 39 - wife James Lovett 18 - son John Floyd 21 - boarder Mary Ann Reading 24 - lodger, unmarried, Chesham, Bucks Mary Elizabeth Reading 2/12 - daughter (of lodger) , Hemel Hempstead
Looking at the image, it looks as if the two Mary's are a different household from John Floyd and the Lovetts.
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29 Sep 2019 15:52 |
?? If already posted, this is just to keep them all together.
*** EDIT: BUT see next post.
Mary Reading in the 1871 England Census Name: Mary Reading Age: 31 Estimated birth year: 1840 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Chesham Buckinghamshire England Civil Parish: St Peter Town: Tittenhanger County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: St Albans Sub-registration district: St Albans ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 125 Piece: 1378 Folio: 106 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Cooke 30 Mary Reading 31
Mary Reading in the 1851 England Census Name: Mary Reading Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Charles Reading Mother's name: Sophia Reading Gender: Female Where born: Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Chesham Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Chesham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Amersham Sub-registration district: Missenden ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: Household schedule number: 101 Piece: 1717 Folio: 101 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Charles Reading 39 Sophia Reading 40 James Reading 15 Sarah Reading 14 Mary Reading 12 Sophia A Reading 5 Charles Reading 3 Martha Reading 2 Thomas Reading 5 Mo
Mary Reading in the 1841 England Census Name: Mary Reading Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Gender: Female Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Chesham Hundred: Burnham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Amersham Sub-registration district: Chesham Neighbors: Piece: 47 Book: 2 Folio: 4 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Charles Reading 30 Mary Reading 25 James Reading 6 Sarah Reading 4 Mary Reading 2
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29 Sep 2019 16:04 |
Alternatively -
Possibly the child called Mary Elizabeth in 1861 census???
REDDING, ANN MIMA - GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in HEMEL HEMPSTED Volume 03A Page 320
and the other child in the 1871 census below ??
REDDING, ALICE SARAH - GRO Reference: 1866 J Quarter in HEMEL HEMPSTED Volume 03A Page 353
Mary A Reading in the 1871 England Census Name: Mary A Reading Age: 30 Estimated birth year: 1841 Relation: Housekeeper Gender: Female Where born: Chesham Buckinghamshire England <<<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Hemel Hempstead Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Hemel Hempstead Sub-registration district: Hemel Hempstead ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 37 Piece: 1387 Folio: 24 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age William Durrant 68 William Burry 68 Mary A Reading 30 - unmarried Alice Reading 5 - Hemel Hempstead Ann Reading 10 <<<<< ?? Hemel Hempstead
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29 Sep 2019 16:37 |
???
Deaths Mar 1874 (>99%) READING Mary Ann 39 H. Hempstead 3a 285
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29 Sep 2019 16:40 |
lol, Ag, snap, was just wondering on below Burial...(image also on FMP)
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County Hertfordshire Place Boxmoor Church name St John the Evangelist Register type Unspecified Register entry number 1337 Burial date 05 Mar 1874 Burial person forename Mary Ann Burial person surname READING Person age 38 Burial person abode Hemel Hempstead
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07 March 1874 - Hemel Hempstead Gazette and West Herts Advertiser
Death On the 2nd inst., at the Union House, Hemel Hempstead, Mary Ann Reading, aged 39.
(your Mary below)
Birth READING, MARY FOWLER GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 06 Page 272
Deaths Dec 1872 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------- READING Mary 33 Berkhampstead 3a 257
(just to add she is not with Mother Sophia 1861 Chesham, Bucks.)
(another below, occ. Cook, born Buckinghamshire, St. Leonard's) (if near Chesham!)
1861 Redding Mary 1837 — 1861 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Harrow, Hendon, Middlesex,
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29 Sep 2019 19:57 |
Thank you Argyll Gran and Chris for all your kind efforts. Plenty for me to digest!
I hadn't found that burial for Mary Reading after her tragic demise, so it was a great find, many thanks Chris. :-)
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29 Sep 2019 20:22 |
We don't have a Burial for your Mary 1873...
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2 Oct 2019 11:35 |
No, I've not been able to find one either, Chris..
I wondered if wasn't registered as a suicide in those days?
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