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Paul

Paul Report 4 Sep 2019 14:49

Can anyone help with finding any relations of William Holland born c1886 He married bigamously to Fanny Griffiths in 1919 and I think was imprisoned after which I can't find any trace of him. My father was a result of that relationship but he reverted to his mothers name.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Sep 2019 14:52

What more can you tell us of him

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Sep 2019 14:56

Did he give a fathers name

William Holland
Registration Date: Jul 1919
[Aug 1919]
[Sep 1919]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Chorlton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: Fanny Griffiths
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 2079

Rambling

Rambling Report 4 Sep 2019 15:06

Paul where was your father born please, just so we can place where to look for possible ref to William, eg on the 1939 register?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Sep 2019 15:06

So he said he was single

William
Last name Holland
Sex Male
Marital status Single
Year 1919
Date 05 Jul 1919
Place Moss Side, Manchester
Spouse's first name(s) Fanny
Spouse's last name Griffiths
Spouse's sex Female
Spouse's marital status Single
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Holland
Spouse's father's first name(s) Alfred
Spouse's father's last name Strickland
Town Manchester
County Lancashire
Country England
Register type Marriage
Record set England, Greater Manchester Marriages 1570-1936
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Was the info about his father correct

Rambling

Rambling Report 4 Sep 2019 15:12

ah so Fanny had also been married maiden name Strickland as per birth for Paul's father Chorlton.

Rambling

Rambling Report 4 Sep 2019 15:14

Just for ref

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
Griffiths Francis Chorlton 8c 1233
Strickland Fanny Chorlton 8c 1233

Rambling

Rambling Report 4 Sep 2019 15:18

What was William's occupation on marriage ? Possible but only based on date and location

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
78, Dickenson Road, South Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England


William Holland Head Married Male 54 1847 Chapel Keeper St Helens, Lancashire, England
Emma J Holland Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Staffordshire, England
Maria Holland Daughter Single Female 23 1878 Ironer Laundry Patricroft, Lancashire, England
John H Holland Son Single Male 21 1880 Grocers Assistant Patricroft, Lancashire, England
William Holland Son Single Male 15 1886 Butchers Assistant Patricroft, Lancashire, England <<<<
Annie Holland Daughter Single Female 13 1888 School Patricroft, Lancashire, England
Lilly Holland Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Patricroft, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Whitehouse Niece Single Female 22 1879 Ironer Laundry Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Sep 2019 15:19

So you say it was a bigamous marriage who has he been married before too and where

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Sep 2019 15:32

Where did you get the approximate birth year of 1866?
Is that from the 1919 marriage cert?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Sep 2019 15:33

1886

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Sep 2019 15:35

Yes, thanks for correction, Erika.

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Sep 2019 15:37

Marriage: 11 Jun 1904 All Saints, Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire, England
Francis Griffiths - 21, Porter, Bachelor, 36 Stafford Street
Fanny Strickland - 19, Spinster, 36 Stafford Street
Groom's Father: William Griffiths, Dial Maker
Bride's Father: Alfred Strickland, Wheelwright
Witness: Samuel Horton; Beatrice Griffiths
Married by Banns by: D. Ellison Rector
Register: Marriages 1901 - 1920, Page 53, Entry 106
Source: LDS Film 2112985

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Sep 2019 15:49

;-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 Sep 2019 16:54

when william married 1919 his father william a horse dealer was deceased
he was a scaler of 159 claremont road mosside aged 35

Paul

Paul Report 4 Sep 2019 18:01

lots of things going on here didn't think I would get such a response think I am using this properly all the info stated is correct
My father kept his mothers name as his surname but wad christened him WILLIALM HOLLAND GRIFFITHS but he dropped the Holland later, as I said he did serve time for bigamy butI lost trace of him later.

Having trouble answering all the reply's I am getting so I may be a bit slow

Dea

Dea Report 4 Sep 2019 18:28

Paul,

First of all - welcome to the 'Boards'.

There are lots of us on here who enjoy trying to help with other people's trees so you will usually get a very good response.

Do not try to answer all the posts individually with messages direct to each person which your comment above " Having trouble answering all the reply's I am getting so I may be a bit slow " leads me to think you are trying to do??

It is always much better for everyone if you keep all the responses to general posts on here - that way everyone can see the extra info you may be giving and it is much easier for you to keep up too.

Dea x

Paul

Paul Report 4 Sep 2019 18:59

Thanks i'll do that.

Paul

Paul Report 5 Sep 2019 13:34

To everyone who posted a reply to my request Thank you the info you supplied to me I do have although it took me a good deal longer to obtain. In answer to Shirley I don't know for sure who his previous wife was or when he married her. This is my dilemma that I do not know anything about him for sure I was just wondering if anyone could throw any light on him after marriage to my Grandma was dissolved after all he would be my grandfather and I may have other relations out there. So if anyone has any ideas of where I can go next let me know. .

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Sep 2019 13:51

baptism from census posted by rambling

William
Last name Holland
Gender Male
Birth year 1885
Birth place -
Baptism year 1885
Baptism date 02 May 1885
Residence Patricroft, Lancashire, England
Place Patricroft
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Holland
Mother's first name(s) Emma

HOLLAND, JOHN HENRY WHITEHOUSE
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in BARTON-UPON-IRWELL Volume 08C

WILLIAM
Last name HOLLAND
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1875
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


WILLIAM HOLLAND married one of these people

Emma Jane Whitehouse
District Barton upon Irwell
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C
Volume as transcribed 8C
Page number 714A