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I have an ancestor who has always stood out as not of the fold and having checked the obvious I wonder if anyone could help me please. The only info I have apart from photos is Queenie Thorne born abt 1912 and died 3rd March 1960 in Twickenham. Some one a long time ago found out about the death but there is nothing on Genes that I can trace.
I was born myself in 1931 but due to the usual older relatives falling out I never saw Queenie.
Thank you Robin Thorne ;-) ;-)

The only Queenie Thorne I can find on GRO was born 1910 in Gloucestershire and her mothers maiden name was Oliver. Could this be your lady?

Jane

welcome to the boards

Middlesex South is the RD that covered Twickenham in 1960

Only Thorne whose death registered there in 1960 was 17 years of age and no Queenies

There are numerous deaths with age c 50 +/- 5 years in the RD within Q1 - a Nora, Ellen E, Jeanie D, Beatrice F, Dorothy, Grace E, Helen, Monica A, Janet M, Doris, Gladys M, May L, Ivy M, Annie E, Grace I R, Anne J, Elizabeth, Rhoda M. Registration could have been delayed or possibly registered in another district (in hospital, visiting etc)

Was Queenie her actual name - often a 'nickname"

How are you so sure of a death date if you know so little else about her?

What more can your tell us about her

Queenie could be a nickname

How is she related

You said she was an aunt so trying to work back - is this your parents marriage?

EDIT - whoops - you didn't say an aunt

England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

MarriageFinder ™
GEORGE W M THORNE married one of these people
Marjorie E Dare
Spouse's last name Dare
District Kingston
District number -
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Volume as transcribed 2A
Page number 1251


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and your Father's birth ?

England & Wales Births 1837-2006

First name(s) GEORGE WILLIAM M
Last name THORNE
Birth year 1897
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Meager
District Kingston
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 305
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

Could she have married into the family

OP makes no mention of the relationship between himself and this woman

No he doesn’t but is that relevant ?

EDIT - my mistake - I had mentioned aunt in earlier post !!

? This family in 1911 - no further Thorne/Meager births

1911 Census For England & Wales
Campham 35 Elm Road New Malden, New Malden, Surrey, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alfred Charles Thorne Head Married Male 42 1869 Closer Boot Trade Twickenham Midx
Mary Thorne Wife Married Female 43 1868 - Hackney
Christopher Alfred Meajer Thorne Son Single Male 17 1894 Office Boy Plaisto Essex
Alice Helen May Thorne Daughter Single Female 15 1896 Domestic Help Islington Middlesex
George William Meajer Thorne Son - Male 14 1897 Errand Boy Wimbledon Surrey

Married 18 years 3 children born and still living

Yes, it is Shirley, if you read greyghost’s post at 17.26

I think you are on the right track with this couple GG:

GEORGE W M THORNE married one of these people
Marjorie E Dare

Dea x

As Robin’s birth shows MMN Dare, that is certainly the case

Does your family have any connection with Wales, Robin?

Only posting because of the name and year of birth - no idea if relevant or not.
I know this is risking us setting off on a wild goose chase.

Queenie G Thorne
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Queenie G Thorne
Registration Date: Apr 1931
[May 1931]
[Jun 1931]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Newport Market
Inferred County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Spouse: Harry Bryant
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 478


Queenie G Bryant
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Queenie G Bryant
[Queenie G Hazell]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1912 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 54
Residence Place: Risca, Monmouthshire, Wales
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 143
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: XOUP
Registration district: 587 A/2
Inferred Spouse: Harry Bryant
Household Members:
Name
Harry Bryant - 10 May 1899, steel smelter
Queenie G Bryant
(and two closed records on Ancestry )

Her surname apparently changed to Hazell after 1939 - but I don't see her death.
Nor her birth.

Nor a previous marriage. Nor the births of any Bryant/Thorne children 1931-39.

Harry's birth (and he's in Risca with his parents and siblings in 1901 and 1911):

Harry Bryant
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harry Bryant
Registration Year: 1899
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 249

Possible death AG ? so not the person in question who is said to have died 1960

England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) QUEENIE G
Last name HAZELL
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1913
Age 42
Death quarter 1
Death year 1955
District Hatfield
County Hertfordshire
Volume 4B
Page 46
Country England

Yes, you're right, GG - not Robin's Queenie.

Could this be Queenie? This one died on the 3rd March 1960. I have an Aunt Dorothy who is known as Queenie.

DOROTHY M
Last name THORNE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1899
Age 61
Death quarter 1
Death year 1960
District Horsham
County Sussex
Volume 5H
Page 706


Her probate reads of Rose Cottage, Wylye nr Warminster spinster died 3rd Mar 1960 at the Crawley Hospital Sussex Administration LONDON to Herbert Henry Thorne farmer.

1911 Census For England & Wales

Adur Lodge Shipley Horsham, Shipley, Sussex, England

Edwin Thorne Head Married Male 42 1869 Estate Foreman Horningsham Wilts
Bertha Thorne Wife Married Female 40 1871 Housewife Horningsham Wilts
>>Dorothy May Thorne Daughter Single Female 12 1899 School Dalham Suffolk
Herbert Henry Thorne Son Single Male 9 1902 - Dalham Suffolk
Cecil Ruther Thorne Son Single Male 5 1906 - Dalham Suffolk
Hilda Ellen Thoubridge Servant Single Female 16 1895 Domestic Servant Shorburyness Essex

This is her in 1939:


Herbert H Thorne's life in 1939
Willoughby Farm Langley Lane, Horsham R.D., Sussex, England

Herbert H Thorne 09 Jun 1901 Male Dairy Farmer Married 86 1
Florence B Thorne 12 Feb 1913 Female Assisting Husband A Fa? Married 86 2
~??? Thorne 01 Aug 1898 Female Poultry Farmer Single 86 3 ....................... (DOROTHY MAY !!!).................
Bessie Jenner 11 May 1887 Female Housekeeper Unpaid Widowed 86 4
Alfred H Jenner 23 Jan 1923 Male Junior Horticultural Clerk Single 86 5

Dea x

This Queenie also died on 3rd March 1960 according to her probate. She was a spinster.

QUEENIE C
Last name HOOPER
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1907
Age 53
Death quarter 1
Death year 1960
District Paddington

I think we need Robin to come back and explain where the date of death and approx year of birth come from.


[Incidentally, I have an Elizabeth in my tree, born 1895, who was known as Queenie.]