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Yes, there are baptisms for the boys - I see Fred's now that I know he was Alfred, not Frederick! - but no birth records.

Jessie is William Jessie born 3/1/1868 Bapt 9/5/ 1868 at Crewkerne
Fred is Alfred born 1873 Bapt 22/8/1873 (why do they not put their full name of these census forms makes it easier for us ) :-0

Thank you Chris Ho for all of the shipping details, why didn't think of that???? not as learned as all of you great guys :-D

Below might have been her arrival, she left on Vessel named Surrey, left London 8th December...(Miss Monk mentioned)

https://tinyurl.com/y3yxkmxn


(below some of the voyage, bit of a scenery change to Somerset, lol)

https://tinyurl.com/yxqglkku

Chris :)

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(some articles relating to Mary Gilmore also)


Edits (here she is in list of emigrant girls arriving with Miss Monk...E. Tucker)

https://tinyurl.com/y5w39syn


(now Amy B!)...

Tuck Amy B 25 Jan 1901 Fremantle SURREY Sydney


http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/

(Record Search, then Passenger arrivals)

No, can't see her birth record - but there's also no birth record for her brothers Jesse c1869 (William Jesse at baptism) or Fred c1885 - and also no baptism for Fred, as far as I can see.
Also no birth for Alfred 1875-79.

So she's not a one-off anomaly in the family.

I printed off a copy of the passenger list & it has her as Emily ( looks like J )Tucker aged 29 years

Thank you for Emmie Tucker on the 1891 Census. it does sound promising being a cook possibly helped get her on the ship to Australia in 1901 thank you also for that passenger list
I tried looking for a birth in 1867 after seeing the Baptism 6/9/1867 but could not find a Emma Jane with a mother Barrett/Symonds
This site has the best researchers :-)

Brilliant AG - we knew it must be Emma but by finding that 1891 it adds some real 'weight' to the theory - you can see the beginnings of the transition..................

Dea x

Well done AG, looks like a good match there!...

Chris :)

(blistering heat here, but I'm just washing floor lol)

Emmie Tucker
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Emmie Tucker
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Relationship: Boarder
Birth Year: 1867
Birth Place: Cewkerm, Somerset, England
[Crewkerne, Somerset, England]
Civil Parish: Kensington
Residence Place: Kensington, London, England
Sub Registration District: Kensington Town
ED, Institution or Vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 19
Folio: 128
Household Members:
Name Age
Evangelina Someroy [Pomeroy ] 26 - widow, dressmaker, Yeovil,Somerset.
Emmie Tucker 24 - cook, domestic servant, single


If she was calling herself Emmie, I can see how that could easily become Amy.

About 7 years older than Amy claimed to be .

But if she changed her name from plain Emma Jane to more exotic Amy Jeune, then I dare say chopping off a few years of age is also feasible!

Have you read all through the 'Thread', what are your thoughts on below Baptism?...

(age might be out, but there was quite a few sibling Deaths, followed by both parents, was she sure, did you see the 1901 Trove Newspaper Marriage notice, posted earlier, says youngest Daughter of late William Tucker, with death of Ellen Dorothy, could be right, Mary being eldest)

Need her on 1891, Emily being at home 1871, 1881, no sign of an Amy on those...

Chris :)

County Somerset
Place Crewkerne
Church name St Bartholomew
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 08 Sep 1867
Person forename Emma Jane
Father forename William
Mother forename Louisa
Father surname TUCKER
Person abode Hewish
Father occupation Weaver

I have Amey (Amy) Barrett Tucker's marriage to Frederick Charles John Marks 12th September 1901 at Trinity Church Norseman father down as William Tucker a Auctioneer & mother Louisa Barrett, Her sister Mary Anna Tucker born 1865 Chard married Frederick Gilmore in 1892 in NSW, they must have come to Perth as she died 14th November 1947 at Esperance W A
I had first thought Amey might have been Mary & she didn't like the name so moved it around a bit but then I discovered she had a sister Mary Anna so that wasn't the case.
I find it odd that we can't find her on any census!!!!

(thankyou for checking those AG, been shopping as well, all a bit late!, lol)

Will wait and see what other info. Ellen has on family, I think...

Chris :)

Edits (just adding below for eldest sister)

England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 (Find My Past)
First name(s) Mary Ann Barrett
Last name Tucker
Gender Female
Birth year
Baptism year 1865
Baptism date 12 Nov 1865
Residence Crewkerne, Somerset, England
Place Crewkerne
County Somerset
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Tucker
Mother's first name(s) Louisa
Mother's last name Tucker


(presuming below is 1865 Marriage in opening post?)

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Symonds Louisa Chard 5c 745
Tucker William Chard 5c 745


Somerset Marriage Index (Find My Past)
First name(s) Louisa
Sex Female
Last name Symonds
Marriage year 1865
Birth year 1834
Spouse's first name(s) William
Spouse's last name Tucker
Parish Crewkerne


1861 (Find My Past)
Louisa Symonds Head Widow Female 28 1833 - Crewkerne, Somerset, England
Hewish, Crewkerne, Chard, Somerset


1851 (Find My Past)
William Barrett Head Married Male 53 1798 Ag Laborer Crewkerne, Somerset, England
Ann Barrett Wife Married Female 50 1801 Laundress London, Middlesex, England
Edward Barrett Son Unmarried Male 21 1830 Farmer (Journeyman) Crewkerne, Somerset, England
Louisa Barrett Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 Glove Sewer Crewkerne, Somerset, England
Jesse Barrett Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Saddler App Crewkerne, Somerset, England
Hewish, Crewkerne, Chard, Somerset,

Mary Ann remarried in 1912.
Definitely not Emma/Amy's sister.:

Mary Ann Laverick
in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
Name: Mary Ann Laverick (widow)
[Mary Ann Tucker]
Gender: Female
Age: 56
Birth Year: abt 1856
Marriage or Bann Date: 8 Apr 1912
Marriage Place: Horton, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Ilminster
Father: Eli Tucker
Spouse: Edwin Scott [ Trott on image ]


Iin 1901 she's housekeeping for her father:

Mary Ann Laverick
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Laverick
[Mary Ann Tucker]
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Eli Tucker
Birth Place: Chardstock, Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Ilminster
Ecclesiastical parish: Ilminster St Mary
Town: Ilminster
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Ilminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 2291
Folio: 38
Page Number: 26
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members:
Name Age
Eli Tucker 75
Somers John Tucker 44
Mary Ann Laverick 40 - married, housekeeper for father
Mabel Victoria Tucker 13 - grand-daughter
(and some boarders)

Mabel Victoria doesn't appear to be Mary Ann's daughter..
Birthplace transcribed as "Bew Wondtey, London, England", but looks more like New Wortley (something) to me. Can't see such a birth.
If born in London, there are two possible births in 1887, but not mms Tucker.

However, it's not relevant - Mary Ann isn't Amy's sister.

Possibly Mary Ann in 1881 ?? (OR at least, the Mary Ann who married John Laverick.)
And if so, she's not the sister of Emma/Amy - too old.

Mary Ann Tucker
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Tucker
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ash, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Seavington St Michael
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration district: Chard
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 2384
Folio: 62
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Ware 47
Mary Ware 37
Sarah Ware 15
Ada Mary Ware 14
William Naish Ware 13
Mary S. Ware 11
Elizabeth Ware 9
Emily Ware 8
Robert Ware 6
John Ware 4
Mary Ann Tucker 24
Elizabeth Tucker 14

So John Thomas Laverick married Mary Ann Tucker ??

Not so easy to find afterwards.
Apparently no children of the marriage.


There are various records for a John Thomas Laverick in Stokesley (Yorkshire) and London - but no mention of Mary Ann.

In 1901 he's married , and a schoolmaster, but an inmate of the workhouse:

John T Laverick
in the 1901 England Census
Name: John T Laverick
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stokesley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Stokesley
Ecclesiastical parish: Stokesley St Peter
Town: Stokesley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Stokesley
Sub-registration district: Stokesley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 4591
Folio: 60
Page Number: 19
Household schedule number: 121


Later he's relocated from Stokesley to London under the Poor Law.

John Thomas Laverick
in the London, England, Selected Poor Law Removal and Settlement Records, 1698-1930
Name: John Thomas Laverick
Residence Age: 42
Birth Date: abt 1865
Event Type: Settlement Papers
Residence Date: 10 Jul 1907
Residence Poor Law Union: Hackney
Residence: Stokesley, London, England
Reference Number: HABG/196/011


BUT maybe not the same John thomas Laverick

George Kerby married Ellen Baker:

George Kerby
in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Kerby
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1863
Spouse: Nellie Kerby
Child: Bessie Kerby
Birth Place: Ilminster, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Ilminster
Residence Place: Ilminster, Ilminster, Somerset, England
Sub Registration District: Ilminster
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 1891
Folio: 82
Household Members:
Name Age
George Kerby 28
Nellie Kerby 27
Bessie Kerby 6/12
Alice Baker 14



KERBY, BESSIE mms BAKER
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in CHARD Volume 05C Page 352

Tom Savidge married Emily Towells, per 1891 census:

Thomas Savidge
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Thomas Savidge
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1861
Spouse: Emily Savidge
Child: Thomas Savidge
Birth Place: Ilminster, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Residence Place: Brixton, Lambeth, London, England
Sub Registration District: Brixton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 46
Neighbors:
Piece: 416
Folio: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Savidge 30
Emily Savidge 34
Thomas Savidge 6/12


SAVIDGE, THOMAS mms TOWELLS
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 450

(apologies folks, just looking in, gasman here servicing boiler!, lol)

Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
Baker Ellen Chard 5c 636
Kerby George Chard 5c 636
Laverick John Thomas Chard 5c 636
SAVIDGE Tom Chard 5c 636
Towells Emily Chard 5c 636
Tucker Mary Ann Chard 5c 636

I did wonder if above was her elder sister, and if they (not knowing yet which man!) too went to Australia?...

Chris :)

Edits (Brother William Jesse was in Clerkenwell, London, 1901,1911, with wife Annie)

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
PATTEMORE Annie Chard 5c 645
Tucker William Jesse Chard 5c 645

Miss Monk is mentioned in the link above:

The 1890s saw the standard of matrons improve, as these ladies were selected from the United British Women’s Emigration Association’s experienced corps of matrons.27They continued to be paid by the colonial government, although trained and appointed by the association, and their gratuities were increased to £25 plus a return steamer passage to England.
The regular matron to the colony was Miss Mary Monk, who had accompanied parties to Western Australia prior to 1889 and continued working under the new scheme, supervising at least sixteen of its twenty-one voyages. An example of the professionalised matron which the British Ladies’ Female Emigration Society had earlier promoted, Monk made a career out of her work as a shipboard matron, listing her occupation in the 1901English census as “Lady Superintendent of Government Female Emigrants to Western Australia”.
Mary Monk also accompanied other United British Women’s Emigration Association parties to various dominions, travelling extensively."

And other references.