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I have a tricky one here hoping someone can help with the little information that I have on him.
Robert Stewart a Farm Labourer of Mitten of Barris kenneff & Georgina Mackie Black had a son (illegitimate) William Stewart on 3rd June 1913 he died 12th August 1960
Georgina went on the marry a Alexander Criggie 5th September 1929 they had 2 children together
I have been told Robert died in WW1 ?
I am looking for further information on Robert Stewart
Thank You

There are 100 - 150 deaths on CWGC site for the name Robert (or the initial 'R') Stewart during WW1 so we really do need a bit more info.

As you seem to know exactly where he was born, have you any idea of 'when' - even an approximate year would be helpful.

Any little snippet could lead us a bit further.

What details do you have on Georgina please?

Dea x

Look for him on 1911 census - available only on SP, and not on subscription.

Presumably the location you give for Robert is from the child's birth cert, so you won't know where he was born.

If not, please clarify.

You say above that Georgina married Alexander Criggie in 1929 ???

Should this be 1919 perhaps ??

Dea x

Googling ' Mitten of Barris' produces the following result, which may of course be irrelevant


Mitton of Barras
Stonehaven AB39 2UH

Stonehaven is some distance from Stirling

Hi ErikaH,

Sorry, have I missed something here? - where does 'Stirling' come in please?

Dea x

Hi Dea

Senior moment. Mixing up two separate threads! Should have waited till I was fully awake!

E.

Thank goodness for that !! - I re-read the thread several times but couldn't work out where Sterling came from.

I too have 'senior moments' nowadays and as it is my birthday today I am even more 'senior' than I was yesterday, I was getting quite worried ;-) :-D :-D. All is well now though ...............

Dea x

Happy birthday, Dea!


In 1911 there is no Robert Stewart aged 15-40 in the Stonehaven area.
There's one in Inverbervie, Kincardineshire, but he's only 9.

Where was William born, please?

Georgina was 79 when she died in 1962 in Stonehaven district, so born c1883.

??
BLACK
GEORGINA
F
1882
254/ 40
Bervie or Inverbervie

There is no Georgina Black aged 27-31 anywhere in Aberdeenshire in 1911.
Nor in Inverbervie, Kincardineshire.

Unless I'm missing it.
I'm not getting any younger either!

I assume this is Georgina in 1901:

Georgina Black
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Georgina Black
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relationship: Grand Daur (Granddaughter)
Gender: Female
Where born: Bervie, Kincardineshire
Registration Number: 254
Registration district: Bervie
Civil Parish: Bervie
County: Kincardineshire
Address: House
Occupation: Flax Spinner
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 42
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1901_81
Household Members:
Name Age
Barclay Black 80
Jessie Black 77
Georgina Black 18


Barclay died in 1902, and Jessie in 1909.

She's listed as their daughter in 1891 - or at least that's what the transcription says - but given Jessie/Janet's age, she must have been their grand-daughter as stated in 1901;

Georgina Bladk
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Georgina Bladk
[Georgina Black]
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's name: Barclay Bladk
Mother's name: Janet Bladk
Gender: Female
Where born: Gourdon, Kincardine
Registration Number: 254
Registration district: Bervie
Civil Parish: Bervie
County: Kincardineshire
Address: William St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 152
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1891_76
Household Members:
Name Age
Barclay Bladk 67
Janet Bladk 65
Georgina Bladk 8

Tree on Ancestry has Georgina Black born 13th July 1882, Gourdon, Kincardineshire. Married Alexander Criggie on 3rd June 1919. He was born 1874 and died in 1929.

Robert Stewart born about 1874, Redgorton, Perthshire.

Looking back through the censuses, Barclay and Janet/Jessie only had one child, a daughter, Johan/Johanna, born 1859.
She married John Cargill in 1886.

So presumably Georgina's mother.

I'm not convinced by that tree mentioned by Choccy.

In 1901 , Robert 1874 Redgorton is married and he's a butler, not a farm labourer.


Robert Stewart
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Robert Stewart
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jessie Stewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Redgorton, Perthshire
Registration Number: 393B
Registration district: Stanley
Civil Parish: Redgorton
County: Perthshire
Address: Perth Rd Taybank
Occupation: Butler
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1901_127
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Stewart 27
Jessie Stewart 26
Peter Stewart 22


This looks like the same family in 1911:

STEWART
ROBERT
1911
M
37
393/B 2/ 7
Stanley
Perth

STEWART
JAMES
1911
M
6
393/B 2/ 7
Stanley
Perth


STEWART
ALEXANDER
1911
M
40
393/B 2/ 7
Stanley
Perth

STEWART
MARY
1911
F
9
393/B 2/ 7
Stanley
Perth


STEWART
JEANETTE
1911
F
0
393/B 2/ 7
Stanley
Perth


STEWART
JESSIE
1911
F
4
393/B 2/ 7
Stanley
Perth



STEWART
JOHN
1911
M
8
393/B 2/ 7
Stanley
Perth


STEWART
JESSIE
1911
F
36
393/B 2/ 7
Stanley
Perth

Thank you AG xx

Georgina is still at William St in 1911 but apparently (according to an Ancestry tree) under the name of Georgina Mackie - aged 29 and living alone?

Dea x

Perhaps the tree owner is confused by the fact that his middle name was Black ?

Death - not in WW1:

STEWART
ROBERT BLACK
60
1934
393/B 6
Stanley


STEWART
ROBERT BLACK
M
1873
390/ 31
Redgorton


His marriage to Jessie:

STEWART
ROBERT BLACK
MCNAUGHTON
JESSIE T
1901
444/ 7
Leslie (Fife)


Tree owner doesn't mention Jessie at all, though does have Robert in 1901 census, and also the birth of David.

Yes, Georgina alone in 1911, though I can't check the address, nor the name on the original, without spending credits:

MACKIE
GEORGINA
1911
F
29
254/ 3/ 13
Bervie or Inverbervie
Kincardine

Info on Ancestry tree -


Statutory registers Birth 254/40 Page 14 District of Bervie 1882

Georgina Black, (illigitimate) Born. 13th July, 1882 3.15p.m, Gourdon, Bervies. Mother Johan Black, Domestic Servant. Register 24th August, 1882 signed Johanna Black, Mother. Registrar Mr. William Harris.


Statutory registers Marriages 254/6 Page 3 District of Bervie 1919

On 3rd of June at Souter Close, Gourdon after banns according to the forms of the United Free Church of Scotland. Alexander Criggie, Mill worker (Widower), Brae Road, Gourdon ( Father David Criggie, Fisheman (deceased) Mother: Margaret Criggie (M.S. Cruickshank) and Georgina Mackie Black, Mill Worker, (spinster), Souter Close, Gourdon, Mother Johanna Black, Domestic Servant (deceased). Witnessed by. Mary Lownie and David Gargill. Signed Rev. D.M. Baillie, Minister of Bervie, Free Church of Scotland. Registrar: George Fraser 6th June, 1919

Good find, Choccy.

However, the tree also lists David Stewart as a son of Georgina, when he's clearly not.

I'm convinced that Robert 1874 is not William's father.
Assuming that Robert 1874 was still a butler in 1911, it's highly unlikely that a butler from Perth would be a farm labourer in 1913, and fathering a child in Inverbervie, almost 70 miles away.

There's this Robert Stewart from Bervie who died in WW1 - but a lot younger than Georgina. If he was William's father, he would only have been 17 at the time - so probably not.

EDIT: In fact, definitely not - he was a shoeing smith before joining up.

Robert Stewart
in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Robert Stewart
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1896
Enlistment Age: 19
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 1 School Wynee [ Wynd ], Bervie
Regimental Number: 9430
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps
Number of Images: 3
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Robert Stewart Self (Head)
David Stewart Father





Driver STEWART, ROBERT
Service Number TS/9430
Died 03/01/1919
Aged 23
238th H.T. Coy.
Royal Army Service Corps
Son of David and Helen Stewart, of High St., Bervie, Kincardineshire.

Died in Salonica of influenza.