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think this is more like it

father Henry - Lyden near Dover
discharged 23/11/04
William
Last name Lee
Birth year 1874
Birth parish St Mary's
Birth town Woolwich
Birth county Kent
Birth country England
Service number 94331
Regiment Royal Artillery
Year 1892
Attestation date 24 Nov 1892
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months 7
Attestation service number 94331
Attestation corps Royal Artillery
Discharge corps Royal Artillery
Document type Attestation
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913

Transcription:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Frogham Street, Nonington, Eastry, Kent, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Henry Lea Head Married Male 28 1853 Ag Lab Surrey, England
Sarah Lea Wife Married Female 29 1852 - Nonington, Kent, England
Anne C F Lea Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Nonington, Kent, England
William B Lea Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Womenswold, Kent, England
Charles H Lea Son Single Male 2 1879 - Womenswold, Kent, England
Edith Mary Lea Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Nonington, Kent, England
John Castle Boarder Single Male 18 1863 Ag Lab Nonington, Kent, England

Yes, that's the right one, Maddie . Well found!

LEE, WILLIAM BELL SAWKINS
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in BRIDGE Volume 02A Page 743

First name(s) William Bell
Last name Lee
Birth year 1876
Age 59
Death year 1935
Burial year 1935
Burial date 24 May 1935
Burial place River, Ss Peter & Paul
County Kent
Country England
Register year range 1873-1939
Archive reference U3/170
Page 90
Archive
Canterbury Cathedral Archives
Record set Kent Burials
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain
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First name(s) WILLIAM B
Last name LEE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1876
Age 59
Death quarter 2
Death year 1935
District Dover
County Kent
Volume 2A
Page 1456
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

Thanks ArgllGran.

Not researched in a while, but the 1911census for William and Emma seems to fit. Its looks they did have three children and one died in 1902.
I know for definite that the 1901 census is correct.
The address is the same as on Henry's marriage certificate who is my g grandfather.

Sorry Maddie only just seen you post, not come across the before, what am I looking at

On the image of the 1939 register, this lady is listed as Mary A. E. Lee and is widowed not married.


REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Lee Household (1 Person)
40 River Street , Dover M.B., Kent, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S)

Mary E A Lee
DOB 13 May 1880
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Household Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 95
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1
Ref: RG101/1714E/009/07 Letter Code: DHLH
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Not sure if the service records posted by Maddie referred to your William. If your William was the brother of Ada Charlotte, the age doesn't match unless he lied about his age to enlist. Always a possibility of course.

Thanks for your help everyone. Still not sure where to go with all this.

I do know Marys Mum Martha Cook is on a public ancestry tree.

Could someone have a look for me please if they have access.

Would my own tree come up in hints ?

March Cook born 22 Feb 1851 Great Yarmouth.

There's a tree (Harper Family Tree) owned by jeneilam, who last logged in today.
Is that yours?

What is it you want to know ?

The tree gives Mary Ann (Emma)'s name as Mary Anne Elizabeth, and her husband as William Henry Lee 1877.

One piece of proof offered is the 1899 marriage cert for Mary Ann Emma to William (no middle name), which has been posted on this thread.


However, Mary Ann Emma was illegitimate if her mother's maiden surname was Cook(e), but the marriage banns record gives her father's name as Henry. Invented for respectability ?

Mary Ann Elizabeth was certainly illegitimate - if she's the same person. Do you have a copy of the birth cert?

COOK, MARY ANN ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in YARMOUTH NORFOLK Volume 04B Page 26


Martha Cook
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Martha Cook
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: 6 St Nicholas Place St Nicholas Road
Occupation: Silk Winder
Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors:
Piece: 1913
Folio: 37
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
William Grimmer 31
Mary A. Grimmer 34
Martha Cook 29 - unmarried
Mary A. Cook 4

Yes that’s mine.
Do you think ordering the birth certificate for there first child will help?
As I know it them in 1901
I have Mary’s brothers Henry birth certificate and marriage certificate.

It wouldn't tell you who their parents were, if that's what you mean

Does Mary's/Emma's brother Henry's marriage cert give a father's name?
I know Martha was still unmarried when he was born.

if this martha she had a hard time

MARTHA
Last name COOK
Birth year 1851
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Cook
District Yarmouth
County Norfolk
Country England
Volume 13
Page 421

1851
Great Yarmouth, Yarmouth, Norfolk, England ----- workhouse
Martha
Last name Cook
Relationship Pauper
Marital status -
Sex Female
Age 0
Birth year 1851
Occupation Nile
Birth place England
Birth town Yarmouth
Birth town as transcribed Yarmouth
Birth county Norfolk
Birth county as transcribed Norfolk
Street -
Town -
Parish Great Yarmouth
City -
County Norfolk
Hamlet -
Parliamentary borough Great Yarmouth
Municipal ward New North Ward
Registration district Yarmouth
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1806
Folio 827
Page 10

1871
Neaves Buildings, Great Yarmouth, Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
William Grimmer Head - Male 21 1850 - Norfolk, England
Mary A Grimmer Wife - Female 23 1848 - Norfolk, England
Ann Knights Mother-In-Law - Female 72 1799 - Norfolk, England
Martha Cook Boarder - Female 20 1851 - Norfolk, England
Edward Knights Boarder - Male 12 1859 - Norfolk, England

Yes that’s is what I mean, surely the birth certificate for Annie Elizabeth Lee would tell me who are parents were. Sorry ArgyllGran I’m confused.

Yes Maddie that’s right Martha my gg grandmother.
Henry was born in the workhouse too. It also looks like Martha’s mother died not long after Martha was born.

his lady also in the workhouse 1851
Name: Elizabeth Cook
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Martham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse

ELIZABETH
Last name COOK
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1863
District Flegg
County Norfolk
Volume 4B
Page 19
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

I’m pretty sure that’s Martha’s as there’s a baptism record.

Henry’s birth certificate shows no father.

His marriage certificate says Richard, fisherman.
Address on there shows Row 45 Great Yarmouth.

Annie Elizabeth's birth cert would tell you who her parents were - yes.

I meant that it wouldn't tell you who William and Mary/Emma's parents were.

This is Annie's birth record, for our reference:

LEE, ANNIE ELIZABETH mms COOKE
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in YARMOUTH GREAT YARMOUTH Volume 04B Page 6

You have this baptism record {below} on your tree, as being Annie's, but that's not correct. If she was born in July 1899, her birth would have been registered earlier than the first quarter 1900:

England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
Name
Annie Lee
Gender
Female
Christening Age
0
Birth Date
20 Jul 1899
Christening Date
6 Aug 1899
Christening Place
Sprowston, Norfolk, England
Father
William Lee
Mother
Mary Ann Lee
Search Photos
Sprowston, Norfolk, England


ADDED:

That baptism is of this child:

LEE, ANNIE mms BUTLER
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in ST FAITHS Volume 04B Page 106

Sprowston is in St Faiths reg district.