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Updated 13/9/19 please see last post.

Hi all,

Still trying to tie down some parts of my recently extended tree (thanks to finding birth father).

My grandmother was Ellen McMullan, born in 1900 (N.Ireland), but according to the 1901/1911 census 2 of her older siblings were born USA. So I'm trying to locate the emigration/immigration records for her parents and oldest sibling, what I have is:

Father Hugh McMullan (c 1857 according to 1911 census)
Mother Catherine nee McFarland (c 1858) - they married 1/7/1884 Dirraw RC church Ballymoney parish.
The oldest child born Ireland was Mary McMullan born 20/8/1884, so they cut that close!

Next 2 children according to 1901 census were born in USA:

Maggie age 14
Thomas age 12

They were back in Antrim for the birth of next son John in c1891.

I don't have world wide ancestry and can't find them on UK incoming/outgoing lists so if someone could check I'd be really grateful
Many thanks

1900 ????????????? don't think it is the same family
Name: Hugh Mcmullen
[Hugh Mc Mullen]
Age: 42
Birth Date: Jul 1857
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Union, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Sheet Number: 6
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 130
Family Number: 131
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1879
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Catherine Mcmullen
Marriage Year: 1881
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Years in US: 21
Naturalization: Na
Occupation: Coal Miner
Months Not Employed: 6
Can Read: No
Can Write: No
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: R
Farm or House: H
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Hugh Mcmullen 42
Catherine Mcmullen 38
Patrick Mcmullen 19
Catherine Mcmullen 16
Hugh Mcmullen 14
Margaret Mcmullen 12
Elizabeth Mcmullen 11

Hugh Mcmullen
Gender Male
Event Type Birth
Event Date 15 Oct 1885
Event Place Banksville, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Father's Name Hugh Mcmullen
Mother's Name Catherine Mcfarland Mcmullen
Citing this Record

Margaret Mcmullen
Gender Female
Event Type Birth
Event Date 28 Sep 1886
Event Place Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Father's Name Hugh Mcmullen
Mother's Name Kate Mcmullen
Citing this Record

"Pennsylvania Births and Christenings, 1709-1950," database, FamilySearch

1901 for ref
Hugh Mc Mullan Head of Family Married 40 1861 Londonderry (Derry)
Catherine Mc Mullan Wife Married 40 1861 Antrim
Thomas Mc Mullan Son Single 12 1889 America
John Mc Mullan Son Single 10 1891 Antrim
Patrick Mc Mullan Son Single 7 1894 Antrim
Mary Mc Mullan Daughter Single 16 1885 Antrim
Lizzie Mc Mullan Daughter Single 8 1893 Antrim
Maggie Mc Mullan Daughter Single 14 1887 America
Ellen Mc Mullan Daughter Single 1 1900 Antrim

1911
Patrick McMullan
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
Event Place Mullans, County Antrim, Ireland
Event Place Mullans (Dirraw, Antrim), Ireland
Gender Male
Age 16
Marital Status Single
Occupation Labourer
Religion Roman Catholic
Birth Year (Estimated) 1895
Birthplace Antrim
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Note -
Affiliate Image Identifier nai001388212/
Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace
Hugh McMullan Head of Family M 54 Co Derry
Catherin McMullan Wife F 53 Antrim
John McMullan Son M 20 Antrim
Elizebeth McMullan Daughter F 17 Antrim
Patrick McMullan Son M 16 Antrim
Ellen McMullan Daughter F 11 Antrim
Joseph McMullan Son M 9 Antrim


i don't think the passenger lists started until 1890

OK, the census posted by Maddie for Ireland are right, but don't believe the US for 1900 is, like she says. Didn't know the passenger lists didn't start until 1890, so probably not much use then. They appear to have managed to dodge transit & census records - and I've no idea where in US the 2 children were born.

I wouldn't dismiss the 1900 census, after all the baptism records for Hugh gives mothers name as Catherine and maiden name as McFarland so worth taking a second look.

But on that 1900 census wife Catherine was born in Pennsylvania as were all 5 children and it says that Hugh was born in England.

A tree on Ancestry says that the Hugh McMullen on the 1900 census was married to Catherine Ann Shields in1880, Pennsylvania. It also says that he died in 1921, Pennsylvania.

i think they may be 2 different familes as ages of children do not match but it is strange that the hugh born 1885 in usa had mother catherine mcfarland mcmulllen
maybe just a coincidenc

just notice hugh was born england in 1900 census and he is still there in 1910

sorry

cannot find births in america either

This is could be Catherine and Mary travelling to the US- I haven't looked for Hugh, although it's likely he travelled earlier:

New York, Passenger and Crew Lists

Name: Mary Mcmullan
Arrival Date: 27 May 1885
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 9/12
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland (Antrim)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Anchoria

Travelling with:
Catherine McMullan- Antrim (age hard to read, but possibly 29)

this is catherine from austinQ find
Name: Cath Mcmullan
Arrival Date: 27 May 1885
Birth Date: abt 1863
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Anchoria
Search Ship Database: Search for the Anchoria in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

but hugh could not have left until after his marriage in 1884

nearest i can find
Name: Hugh Mc Millan ---------------- ???
Arrival Date: 5 Mar 1886
Birth Date: abt 1858
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland and Larne, Ireland
Destination: Boston, Massachusetts
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: State of Nebraska

Age out, but a possible.

Name: Hugh Mc Millan
Arrival Date: 22 Jul 1884
Birth Date: abt 1864
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Bolivia

Sorry I haven't abandoned this post but my OH was assaulted and robbed early hours of Tuesday morning so we are trying to deal with this at the moment. Once I get chance I'll look at the responses in more detail.

Many thanks to all your input so far, as always any input is greatly appreciated.

Oh no, that's shocking! Hope you're both OK Flip.

That's terrible Flip - hope you are all O.K..............

Dea x <3

sorry to here that i hope he is ok
maddie

Sorry, not posted for a few days. Hubby is getting over it, it was a shock and when you're getting older it hits you harder. Still got a couple of lovely black eyes and swollen face, but no serious damage - it could have been worse, they could have been carrying knives like so many seem to do these days.

I'll be back on the research soon, though I'll worry more now if he goes back to doing the odd late shift.

Thank you all for your concern, it is really appreciated that good people like you care.

Take care Flip - don't worry about coming back on here until you are quite ready - we will all still be here - whenever !!

Dea Xxx

Hi all, your support is much appreciated.

Had a good look at this yesterday afternoon, and came to the conclusion we ain't going to prove anything, and considering they were my great aunt/uncle rather than a direct ancestor does it really matter? So please don't waste more time on this.

My conclusions are to discount the US census posted, it doesn't tie in with other info we have. The Irish census posted I believe are correct. The travel info posted by AustinQ also looks possible, but although Mary's age is spot on (9 months) her mothers isn't as according to Maddie she was 22. Additionally there were two other births on GRONI which could be that child.

I think I'll focus on trying to locate Catherine and Hugh's ancestry as my direct line for now, they were my great grandparents. I think I've a lead on Hugh, if he was christened in 1858 as he had named his father as Patrick on his marriage. Haven't anything so far on Catherine McFarland who named her father as John.
atb. Flip

For helpers' reference, in case it helps -
Hugh and Catherine's marriage cert says her father John was a farmer, and her address at marriage was Tullaghans, Ballymoney. She was a weaver.
Witnesses were Jane McFarland , G Watterson, and Henry Law (?) Dunlop (?).


Possibly John's death?

SR District/Reg Area - Ballymoney
Death of JOHN MCFARLAND in 1910
Name JOHN MCFARLAND
Date of Death 1910
Group Registration ID 3679378
SR District/Reg Area Ballymoney
Deceased Age at Death 71

2 January 1910, at Tullaghans.
John McFarland, married, 71, farmer.
Valvular disease of the heart.
Informant: daughter-in-law Mary Ann McFarland.

Death of possibly a grand-daughter of John ???

SR District/Reg Area - Ballymoney
Death of MARY MCFARLAND in 1920
Name MARY MCFARLAND
Date of Death 1920
Group Registration ID 3792467
SR District/Reg Area Ballymoney
Deceased Age at Death 24

1st May 1920 at Tullaghans
Mary Jane McFarland, spinster, 24, housewife.
Consumption.
Informant: mother, Mary Ann McFarland.


Mary Jane's birth:

SR District/Reg Area - Ballymoney
Birth of MARY MCFARLAND in 1896
Name MARY MCFARLAND
Date of Birth 1896
Group Registration ID 9547956
SR District/Reg Area Ballymoney

1st January 1896
Mary Jane
Father: Hugh McFarland, farmer, Tullaghans.
Mother: Mary Ann McFarland, formerly McAfee
Informant: Catherine McMullan <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
(no relationship given)