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12 Mar 2019 20:07 |
Emma Jane Jacob Baptism Date: 6 Dec 1896 Baptism Place: Bexleyheath, Kent, England Chapelry: Christ Church Father: James Jacob Mother: Emma Jane Jacob
Her sister, baptism recorded above her's, might be
JACOB, SARAH mmn BARNES GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 463
I'm having trouble finding either of them on census, anywhere, or Emma Janes birth reg
Help??
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12 Mar 2019 20:11 |
There’s also a birth for an Edith May in AMJ 1897 on the GRO site
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12 Mar 2019 20:23 |
Baptism of the above
Name: Edith May Jacob Baptism Date: 4 Jul 1897 Baptism Place: Bexleyheath, Kent, England Chapelry: Christ Church Parish as it Appears: Bexleyheath Father: James Jacob Mother: Maria Ann Jacob Address 2, Graham Road, Bexleyheath
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Name: Edith May Jacob Estimated birth year: abt 1898 Registration Year: 1902 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 4 Registration district: Greenwich Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 523
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12 Mar 2019 20:24 |
Can you find her on the 1901 please?
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12 Mar 2019 20:26 |
Just noticed - different mother.
Edith May - Father: James Jacob Mother: Maria Ann Jacob
Sarah & Emma Jane - Father: James Jacob Mother: Emma Jane Jacob
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12 Mar 2019 20:26 |
Or this?????????
More likely, I think
Name: Edith May Jacob Age: 1 Birth Year: abt 1898 Burial Date: 29 Apr 1899 Burial Place: Bexleyheath, Kent, England Chapelry: Christ Church Parish as it Appears: Bexleyheath, Christ Church
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12 Mar 2019 20:27 |
Noticed that, but, as I can't find a marriage, I can't cross-refer
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Marriage found - see below
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12 Mar 2019 20:29 |
Can't find a death for Mrs Emma Jane either :-0
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12 Mar 2019 20:35 |
OK -
JACOB, EDITH MAY BARNES GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 478
Regardless of where/when Emma Jane jnr was born, we can be relatively certain that her mothers mmn was Barnes.
That sort of answers the back-story. A contact was trying to track down an Emma Hunt who married a James Edmund Jacob. He'd hoped that my Emma Jane Hunt was the lady in question.
I was more or less ruled it out due to the details on the MC - Occupation for Emma J's father, Frederick Hunt, should have been carrier, carman or something of that ilk
Name Emma Hunt Gender Female Marriage Age19 Record Type Marriage Birth Date abt 1878 Marriage Date28 Mar 1897 Marriage Place St James the Great, Bethnal Green Tower Hamlets, England Father Frederick Hunt Spouse James Edmund Jacob Register Type Parish Register Household Members James Edmund Jacob Thomas Percy Jacob Emma Hunt Frederick Hunt
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12 Mar 2019 20:38 |
That's the birth I referred to - couldn't C&P as I was on my ipad at the time
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12 Mar 2019 20:40 |
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Record Transcription: 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Smiths Cottages, 2, Bexley, Dartford, Kent, England
James Jacob's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Jacob Head Married Male 38 1863 General Labourer Heacham, Norfolk, England Mary Ann Jacob Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Glamorganshire, Wales Ellen Jacob Daughter Single Female 14 1887 General Servant (Domestic) Cadoxton, Glamorganshire, Wales Emma Jacob Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Glamorganshire, Wales James Jacob Son - Male 10 1891 - Latchford, Cheshire, England Jessie Jacob Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Latchford, Cheshire, England Sarah Jacob Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Bexley Heath, Kent, England Margaret Jacob Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Bexley Heath, Kent, England Robert Jacob Father Widower Male 63 1838 Living On Own Means Heacham, Norfolk, England
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12 Mar 2019 20:41 |
They do that sometimes, don't they? So irritating, :-)
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12 Mar 2019 20:41 |
What is your contact trying to prove?
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12 Mar 2019 20:44 |
Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%) Barnes Mary Ann Thornbury 6a 401 Jacob James Charles Thornbury 6a 401
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12 Mar 2019 20:47 |
James Edmund Jacob is well-documented in a tree on Ancestry
Birth Abt. 1871 • Hoxton, Middlesex, England 6 Sources 1871
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Residence 1875 • London, England 1 Source 1875
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Birth of Brother Arthur Jacob(1876–) 1876 • Bethnal Green, London, England 1876
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Residence 1881 • Bethnal Green, London, England Relationship to Head: Son
1 Source 1881
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Death of Father Thomas Percy Jacob(1833–1888) 16 Nov 1888 • 1, Teal Street, Bethnal Green 1888
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Residence 1891 • Bethnal Green, London, England Relation to Head: Son
1 Source 1891
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Birth of Son James E Jacob(1897–) abt 1897 • Hoxton, London, England 1897
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Marriage 28 Mar 1897 • St James The Great, Bethnal Green Road, Bethnal Green, London, England
Emma Jane Hunt (1878–1952)
1 Source 1897
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Birth of Daughter Emma Mary Elizabeth Jacob(1898–1984) 18 Dec 1898 • Bethnal Green, London 1898
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Birth of Daughter Dora Mary Jacob(1900–1987) April 17, 1900 • Bethnal Green, London 1900
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Residence 1901 • Shoreditch St Leonard, London, England Relation to Head of House: Head
1 Source 1901
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Death of Mother Sarah Roberts(1833–1908) Dec 1908 • Hackney, Middlesex, England 1908
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Residence 02 Apr 1911 • Islington, London, England Marital Status: Widowed; Relation to Head of House: Head
1 Source 1911
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View Residence 1932 • Bethnal Green, England 1 Source 1932
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Death 10 Mar 1950 • Romford, Essex, England 2 Sources 1950
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Burial 13 Mar 1950 • Newham, London, England 1 Source
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12 Mar 2019 20:47 |
His grandmother was Dora Mary Jacob - he's trying to trace the maternal line
Dora Jacob Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Edmond Jacob Mother: Emma Jacob Birth Place: Hoxton, London, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: St Columba Haggerston County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerston ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Piece: 277 Folio: 18 Page Number: 27 Household schedule number: 160 Household Members: Name Age Edmond Jacob 30 Emma Jacob 24 James E Jacob 4 Emma Jacob 2 Dora Jacob 1
He's happy with the marriage, but can't find an Emma Hunt with a father Frederick.
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12 Mar 2019 20:51 |
Re the family tree - we can't find any records where Mrs Emma Jacob is referred to with a middle initial or name of Jane.
You might have picked up his tree when he was excited that he may have found 'my' Emma Jane Hunt. (I've advised him to purchases Dora's BC to see if there's a middle name.)
JACOB, DORA MARY mmn HUNT GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 144
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12 Mar 2019 20:58 |
Disappearing now - may come back later this evening in case any has alternative ideas. Thanks for your help this evening
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12 Mar 2019 21:02 |
From the same tree - Emma
irth 02 Sep 1878 • St Lukes, Middlesex, England 6 Sources 1878
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Birth of Brother Frederick Thomas Hunt(1880–1881) 20 Aug 1880 • Southwark, Middlesex, England 1880
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Death of Brother Frederick Thomas Hunt(1880–1881) Mar 1881 • Southwark, London, Surrey, United Kingdom 1881
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Residence 1881 • Bermondsey, London, England Relationship to Head: Daughter
1 Source 1881
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View Residence 1891 • Bethnal Green, London, England Relation to Head: Boarder
1 Source 1891
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Death of Mother Amelia Jane Hodgkiss(1853–1893) 17 October 1893 • London, England
Birth of Son James E Jacob(1897–) abt 1897 • Hoxton, London, England 1897
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Marriage 28 Mar 1897 • St James The Great, Bethnal Green Road, Bethnal Green, London, England
James Edmond Jacob (1871–1950)
2 Sources 1897
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Death of Father Frederick Hunt(1854–1897) 11 Aug 1897 • Middlesex, England
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12 Mar 2019 21:03 |
HUNT, AMELIA EMMA HODGKISS GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 23 HUNT, EMMA JANE HODGKISS GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in OF CHIPPENHAM Volume 05A Page 67
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