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Update - message from contact

(They have had) a DNA match (2nd cousin 1x removed) through both Frederick Hunt and Amelia Jane Hodgkiss, almost certainly Emma Jane Hunt's parents....

They are trying to work out if its via 'my' Emma Jane's sister, Amelia Emma or a yet undiscovered sibling.

Been out today - Freeman.. of what? It's not something I've seen before. Even if he was unemployed, wouldn't they have given a previous occupation?

I'm not convinced that Frederick Hunt is a 'foreman' on the daughter's marriage cert.

It could possibly be 'freeman'

1901
Name: Emma Jacob
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Edmond Jacob
Birth Place: Chippenham, Wiltshire, England*********
Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Columba Haggerston
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 277
Folio: 18
Page Number: 27
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmond Jacob 30
Emma Jacob 24
James E Jacob 4
Emma Jacob 2
Dora Jacob 1

Erica, the additional records are definitely ‘my’ Emma Jane Hunt nee Hodgkiss.
The sticking point is whether she was the one who married James Edmund Jacob. Her father’s occupation doesn’t feel ‘right’ ie foreman....of what?

1881

Name: Frederick Hunt
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Amelia J. Hunt
Gender: Male
Where born: Chippenham, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 188 Bermondsey St
Marital status: Married
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 558
Folio: 76
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Hunt 27
Amelia J. Hunt 27
Amelia E. Hunt 4
Emma J. Hunt 2

Name: Amelia Hodgkiss
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1854
Marriage Date: 7 Feb 1876
Marriage Place: St Thomas, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: John Hodgkiss
Spouse: Frederick Hunt
Father: Thomas Hunt

HUNT, AMELIA EMMA HODGKISS
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 23
HUNT, EMMA JANE HODGKISS
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in OF CHIPPENHAM Volume 05A Page 67

From the same tree - Emma

irth
02 Sep 1878 • St Lukes, Middlesex, England
6 Sources
1878

(AGE)

Birth of Brother Frederick Thomas Hunt(1880–1881)
20 Aug 1880 • Southwark, Middlesex, England
1880

1

Death of Brother Frederick Thomas Hunt(1880–1881)
Mar 1881 • Southwark, London, Surrey, United Kingdom
1881

2

Residence
1881 • Bermondsey, London, England
Relationship to Head: Daughter

1 Source
1881

3

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Residence
1891 • Bethnal Green, London, England
Relation to Head: Boarder

1 Source
1891

13

Death of Mother Amelia Jane Hodgkiss(1853–1893)
17 October 1893 • London, England

Birth of Son James E Jacob(1897–)
abt 1897 • Hoxton, London, England
1897

18

Marriage
28 Mar 1897 • St James The Great, Bethnal Green Road, Bethnal Green, London, England

James Edmond Jacob
(1871–1950)

2 Sources
1897

18

Death of Father Frederick Hunt(1854–1897)
11 Aug 1897 • Middlesex, England

Disappearing now - may come back later this evening in case any has alternative ideas.
Thanks for your help this evening

Re the family tree - we can't find any records where Mrs Emma Jacob is referred to with a middle initial or name of Jane.

You might have picked up his tree when he was excited that he may have found 'my' Emma Jane Hunt. (I've advised him to purchases Dora's BC to see if there's a middle name.)

JACOB, DORA MARY mmn HUNT
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 144

His grandmother was Dora Mary Jacob - he's trying to trace the maternal line

Dora Jacob
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Edmond Jacob
Mother: Emma Jacob
Birth Place: Hoxton, London, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Columba Haggerston
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston
ED, institution, or vessel: 01

Piece: 277
Folio: 18
Page Number: 27
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmond Jacob 30
Emma Jacob 24
James E Jacob 4
Emma Jacob 2
Dora Jacob 1

He's happy with the marriage, but can't find an Emma Hunt with a father Frederick.

James Edmund Jacob is well-documented in a tree on Ancestry

Birth
Abt. 1871 • Hoxton, Middlesex, England
6 Sources
1871

(AGE)

Residence
1875 • London, England
1 Source
1875

4

Birth of Brother Arthur Jacob(1876–)
1876 • Bethnal Green, London, England
1876

5

Residence
1881 • Bethnal Green, London, England
Relationship to Head: Son

1 Source
1881

10

Death of Father Thomas Percy Jacob(1833–1888)
16 Nov 1888 • 1, Teal Street, Bethnal Green
1888

17

Residence
1891 • Bethnal Green, London, England
Relation to Head: Son

1 Source
1891

20

Birth of Son James E Jacob(1897–)
abt 1897 • Hoxton, London, England
1897

26

Marriage
28 Mar 1897 • St James The Great, Bethnal Green Road, Bethnal Green, London, England

Emma Jane Hunt
(1878–1952)

1 Source
1897

26

Birth of Daughter Emma Mary Elizabeth Jacob(1898–1984)
18 Dec 1898 • Bethnal Green, London
1898

27

Birth of Daughter Dora Mary Jacob(1900–1987)
April 17, 1900 • Bethnal Green, London
1900

29

Residence
1901 • Shoreditch St Leonard, London, England
Relation to Head of House: Head

1 Source
1901

30

Death of Mother Sarah Roberts(1833–1908)
Dec 1908 • Hackney, Middlesex, England
1908

37

Residence
02 Apr 1911 • Islington, London, England
Marital Status: Widowed; Relation to Head of House: Head

1 Source
1911

40

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Residence
1932 • Bethnal Green, England
1 Source
1932

61

Death
10 Mar 1950 • Romford, Essex, England
2 Sources
1950

79

Burial
13 Mar 1950 • Newham, London, England
1 Source

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
Barnes Mary Ann Thornbury 6a 401
Jacob James Charles Thornbury 6a 401

What is your contact trying to prove?

They do that sometimes, don't they? So irritating, :-)

????

Record Transcription:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Smiths Cottages, 2, Bexley, Dartford, Kent, England

James Jacob's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Jacob Head Married Male 38 1863 General Labourer Heacham, Norfolk, England
Mary Ann Jacob Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Glamorganshire, Wales
Ellen Jacob Daughter Single Female 14 1887 General Servant (Domestic) Cadoxton, Glamorganshire, Wales
Emma Jacob Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Glamorganshire, Wales
James Jacob Son - Male 10 1891 - Latchford, Cheshire, England
Jessie Jacob Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Latchford, Cheshire, England
Sarah Jacob Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Bexley Heath, Kent, England
Margaret Jacob Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Bexley Heath, Kent, England
Robert Jacob Father Widower Male 63 1838 Living On Own Means Heacham, Norfolk, England

That's the birth I referred to - couldn't C&P as I was on my ipad at the time

OK -

JACOB, EDITH MAY BARNES
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 478

Regardless of where/when Emma Jane jnr was born, we can be relatively certain that her mothers mmn was Barnes.

That sort of answers the back-story.
A contact was trying to track down an Emma Hunt who married a James Edmund Jacob. He'd hoped that my Emma Jane Hunt was the lady in question.

I was more or less ruled it out due to the details on the MC - Occupation for Emma J's father, Frederick Hunt, should have been carrier, carman or something of that ilk

Name Emma Hunt
Gender Female
Marriage Age19
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1878
Marriage Date28 Mar 1897
Marriage Place St James the Great, Bethnal Green Tower Hamlets, England
Father Frederick Hunt
Spouse James Edmund Jacob
Register Type Parish Register
Household Members
James Edmund Jacob
Thomas Percy Jacob
Emma Hunt
Frederick Hunt

Can't find a death for Mrs Emma Jane either :-0

Noticed that, but, as I can't find a marriage, I can't cross-refer

EDITED

Marriage found - see below